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Post by taylorguitars13 on Dec 27, 2005 22:15:06 GMT -7
So I'm going to go out on a limb and ask a question that may have some you laughing at me. I use a multi-effect unit, a Digitech 2120 rack piece, and I was wondering if anyone had tips on how to make it fit well going into the RX ES. I know I should probably turn the preamp stuff on the 2120 down really low, but other than that, any suggestions? Please be nice. lol.
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Post by steelstringbender on Dec 29, 2005 10:14:43 GMT -7
If you have, or can download a manual for that 2120, see if you can bypass it's internal preamp altogether, and just use the effects processing section. If it won't allow you to do this, I would set the preamp to the most neutral settings. I would also put the 2120 in a true bypass loop pedal, to remove it from the signal path entirely when not in use. I do this with my Yamaha Magic Stomp II, and it works reasonably well. I use a true bypass pedal from www.loooper.com
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Post by guitarboy02451 on Dec 29, 2005 14:58:49 GMT -7
I was going to chime in earlier, but didn't. I found it rather hard not to be impartial... LOL! You know the ole' saying... "If you ain't got nothing nice to say..." :-)
The 2120 does not allow true bypassing of it's preamp section. The bypass button just turns off the flavoring that the chip/tubes (more chip really) give to the sound. There is no "turning it down" as you state. The 2120 will do all your tone sculpting which in *my opinion* is a bad thing. Considering the Rx kicks arse in tone!
I had a 2112 with the UP2120 chip in it. I had it for about 5 or 6 years and I graduated out of the rack stuff to just plugging guitar directly into an amp. I used to run it into a rack mounted Marshall 20/20 El84 power amp. Sounded "cool", but got old real quick. Turn off all the effects and try to play clean it sounded like crap. *my opinion again!* ;-)
When the 2112/2120 came out back in the mid 90's, the biggest complaint from all that purchased it was, why can't you bypass the preamp? But that was then, this is now.
There is no way around it. The 2120 is a pre-amp. If you use it, your Rx will be nothing but a glorified botique power amp. It's the same as the old ADA pre amps... It's a pre-amp, no way around it.
I would say, if you must run effects, and effects are the only reason you are keeping 2120, dump it and buy some nice boss effects. The boss effects sound just as good as the effects in the 2120 and will sit nicely in front of the rx.
Other than that, you would send the 2120 LEFT (mono) out of the 2120 into the guitar input of the amp, unless the RX has a send/return. Then you would send the 2120 (Left Mono) out to the Return of the RX. (no return out of the Rx back to the 2120 is required).
But, I can only think that this is a perfectly good waste of a Dr.Z amp. I'm sure others on the forum would agree. Don't mean to be harsh but... it's just like wearing two winter coats at the same time, a really crappy one over a really nice one. You don't need two pre-amps. You have an Rx, just grab some boss pedals for your effects. Or better yet, try playing clean! (advice given to me by Dr.Z himself.)
Good luck!
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Post by taylorguitars13 on Dec 29, 2005 15:21:33 GMT -7
Thank you guys. That was extremely insightful. I've been in the "rack world" for a few years, and I just got the RX over Christmas, so I'm just trying to figure things out. I love the raw and beautiful tone of my guitar going straight into the Z...no doubt that its the best tone I've heard. Its just hard to let go of some of those Digitech effects; I use them quite frequently. I didn't have time to try my rack out with the amp yet, and I had a gig the other night. So I basically just went from guitar into a Boss Tuner and Super Overdrive into the Z. Sounding stunning with just that. I just don't want to turn into a pedal-addict. lol. I love all my effects being controlled with one magical thing. Shame on Digitech for that preamp garbage. Thanks for the help again guys.
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