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Post by rbhuckleberry on Apr 8, 2010 8:38:26 GMT -7
The Monza is supposed to be 20 watts. 20 paint peeling watts, to be sure, but my surf green Monza head says "30 watts RMS" on the back.
What's up, Doc?
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Post by DRZ on Apr 8, 2010 8:51:48 GMT -7
That is momentary PEAK wattage. To comply with upcoming UL certification we must state peak music wattage to protect speakers.
Z
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Post by rbhuckleberry on Apr 8, 2010 9:05:20 GMT -7
That is momentary PEAK wattage. To comply with upcoming UL certification we must state peak music wattage to protect speakers. Z I always thought "RMS" was continuous. But what do I know? Nothin', hence my momentary confusion. Thanks for the reply, Dr. Z. Your presence here is much appreciated! BTW, the Monza may just be your finest work yet. Absolutely the sound I have been looking for (I bought my MAZ 18 for it's versatility, as it would be my only amp for a long while. The Monza is my "selfish" amp. LOL).
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Post by kjv02 on Apr 8, 2010 10:51:29 GMT -7
haha, i noticed that too when i 1st got mine. i guess it just slipped my mind, what with all the paint peeling and everything lol
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Post by DRZ on Apr 8, 2010 12:55:50 GMT -7
That is momentary PEAK wattage. To comply with upcoming UL certification we must state peak music wattage to protect speakers. Z I always thought "RMS" was continuous. But what do I know? Nothin', hence my momentary confusion. Thanks for the reply, Dr. Z. Your presence here is much appreciated! BTW, the Monza may just be your finest work yet. Absolutely the sound I have been looking for (I bought my MAZ 18 for it's versatility, as it would be my only amp for a long while. The Monza is my "selfish" amp. LOL). No your right RMS means Root Mean Squared or 0.707 of peak. I missed that when I sampled the panels and now have 250 with wrong designation, I wondered how long it would take to have to answer that. Once we go to ETL standards I will have to get a label to cover it or re-order correct panels. Just think you have a RMS panel Monza......... Z
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Post by rbhuckleberry on Apr 8, 2010 13:34:36 GMT -7
I always thought "RMS" was continuous. But what do I know? Nothin', hence my momentary confusion. Thanks for the reply, Dr. Z. Your presence here is much appreciated! BTW, the Monza may just be your finest work yet. Absolutely the sound I have been looking for (I bought my MAZ 18 for it's versatility, as it would be my only amp for a long while. The Monza is my "selfish" amp. LOL). No your right RMS means Root Mean Squared or 0.707 of peak. I missed that when I sampled the panels and now have 250 with wrong designation, I wondered how long it would take to have to answer that. Once we go to ETL standards I will have to get a label to cover it or re-order correct panels. Just think you have a RMS panel Monza......... Z ...in surf green!!! LOL! Panel aside, this is one bad mofo of an amp, Doc! You will never top it! So don't even try! Hey! Get away from that workbench...
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Apr 8, 2010 13:56:12 GMT -7
I always thought "RMS" was continuous. But what do I know? Nothin', hence my momentary confusion. Thanks for the reply, Dr. Z. Your presence here is much appreciated! BTW, the Monza may just be your finest work yet. Absolutely the sound I have been looking for (I bought my MAZ 18 for it's versatility, as it would be my only amp for a long while. The Monza is my "selfish" amp. LOL). No your right RMS means Root Mean Squared or 0.707 of peak. I missed that when I sampled the panels and now have 250 with wrong designation, I wondered how long it would take to have to answer that. Once we go to ETL standards I will have to get a label to cover it or re-order correct panels. Just think you have a RMS panel Monza......... Z How do I get one with the WRONG designation? ? Gotta be worth every cent ;D ;D ;D [note to self: hurry up and make some more little green notes to pay for all this!!!] Pete ;D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2010 16:45:19 GMT -7
No your right RMS means Root Mean Squared or 0.707 of peak. I missed that when I sampled the panels and now have 250 with wrong designation, I wondered how long it would take to have to answer that. Once we go to ETL standards I will have to get a label to cover it or re-order correct panels. Just think you have a RMS panel Monza......... Z How do I get one with the WRONG designation? ? Gotta be worth every cent ;D ;D ;D [note to self: hurry up and make some more little green notes to pay for all this!!!] Pete ;D Based on Doc comment I would assume if you purchase one prior to new ETL standards. Otherwise you could always peel the sticker off.
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Post by rbhuckleberry on Apr 8, 2010 17:27:35 GMT -7
How do I get one with the WRONG designation? ? Gotta be worth every cent ;D ;D ;D [note to self: hurry up and make some more little green notes to pay for all this!!!] Pete ;D Based on Doc comment I would assume if you purchase one prior to new ETL standards. Otherwise you could always peel the sticker off. No sticker. Screened right on there.
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Post by draco on Apr 9, 2010 5:19:39 GMT -7
After reading this thread, I had to check my Monza - it does indeed say "30W RMS"....I never even noticed....!
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Post by doctorice on Apr 9, 2010 8:58:41 GMT -7
The Monza is the sonic equivalent or superior of a lot of 30 watts RMS (and higher) amplifiers!
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Post by kjv02 on Apr 9, 2010 9:04:03 GMT -7
The Monza is the sonic equivalent or superior of a lot of 30 watts RMS (and higher) amplifiers! true indeed
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Post by rbhuckleberry on Apr 10, 2010 11:10:34 GMT -7
We are the owners of the ultra rare 30 watt Super Monza!!!!!!
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Post by hitoverdrive on Apr 11, 2010 16:37:57 GMT -7
Me too and Surf Green Head as well. The Monza's don't stay on any shelves for more than a moment I swear. I'm glad I got mine early and didn't wait for another color. I'd still be waiting...
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Post by bluzman on Apr 11, 2010 17:31:55 GMT -7
Mines in the bahn... I remember seeing 11 volts.
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Post by BW on Apr 12, 2010 10:32:12 GMT -7
DANGER! 10,000 OHMS!
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Post by rbhuckleberry on Apr 12, 2010 18:23:12 GMT -7
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Post by guitarstan on Jun 22, 2010 12:12:19 GMT -7
OK so I'm a little slow on the uptake.....the Monza, as I understand it, is in fact a 20 watt amp based on the ways of designating amps for the last 50 years give or take? But, then Dr Z says above, that "....we must protect our speakers by stating peak music wattage....". Alright, does that mean we should not use a speaker that is rated at less than 30 watts? So in other words, we should not use a single 25 watt Celestion Greenback? Thanks!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2010 15:13:40 GMT -7
Is this thing on? It got so quiet Stan...
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Post by rbhuckleberry on Jun 22, 2010 16:44:03 GMT -7
OK so I'm a little slow on the uptake.....the Monza, as I understand it, is in fact a 20 watt amp based on the ways of designating amps for the last 50 years give or take? But, then Dr Z says above, that "....we must protect our speakers by stating peak music wattage....". Alright, does that mean we should not use a speaker that is rated at less than 30 watts? So in other words, we should not use a single 25 watt Celestion Greenback? Thanks! As I understand it, you should be fine if you don't drive the amp at peak levels through the Greenback. Which you wouldn't, 'cuz it would melt your head.
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Post by bikedude on Jun 24, 2010 11:36:05 GMT -7
Hey, mine's a super 30 watter 1X10 bigasss sounding combo too!!
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Post by guitarstan on Jun 24, 2010 13:56:12 GMT -7
OK so I'm a little slow on the uptake.....the Monza, as I understand it, is in fact a 20 watt amp based on the ways of designating amps for the last 50 years give or take? But, then Dr Z says above, that "....we must protect our speakers by stating peak music wattage....". Alright, does that mean we should not use a speaker that is rated at less than 30 watts? So in other words, we should not use a single 25 watt Celestion Greenback? Thanks! As I understand it, you should be fine if you don't drive the amp at peak levels through the Greenback. Which you wouldn't, 'cuz it would melt your head. You are correct as verified by Brent. According to him, it is safe to run the Monza thru a single 25 watt speaker as long as you do not run the amp wide open for an extend period of time.
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