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Post by jwr on Dec 25, 2005 13:27:33 GMT -7
I'm about to order a Z-28 head after playing it for about 5 minutes a couple of months ago. It was a 1X12 combo and I can't get the sound out of my head, it was amazing!!!!! So I'm thinking of buying a 1X12 open back ext cab with it, but I know a lot of people use 10's with this amp as well. Can anyone tell me what the overall consensus is about what speakers this amp sounds best with? I love the Fendery tones of this amp if that helps.
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Post by jwr on Dec 26, 2005 11:50:21 GMT -7
Yeah, I'm buying a 2X10 cab but it's for my MAZ SR 38 that I'm about to order as well. It seems as though most people like the Z-28 with 10's and the 4X10 cab is only $200 more than the 1X12 so.................. And I'm interested in the Z 1X12 because it is open back. Mine is a sealed and ported 1X12 with a celestion 80 watt speaker. It might sound cool with the 28 though. Thanks for the input. Karma comin at ya!
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Post by chadley on Dec 26, 2005 21:51:48 GMT -7
I use mine with a matching 1x12 open back Z cab. I have owned a Ghia that was a 2x10 combo, so I am doing some comparisons to that amp in my head.
I love the 1x12 configuration. My situation is a little different and I am trying to keep stage volume as low as possible. But I am never left unsatisfied with the low end that comes from the 1x12 when I get a chance to crank it up a bit. I think it really represents the tone of the amp really well.
If I remember correctly, my 2x10 Ghia didn't have the same low end that my Z28 does.
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Post by dave on Dec 28, 2005 4:51:47 GMT -7
I'd love a Z cab or two - but they are 75% more expensive over here and I can't justify spending the equivalent of 1000+ bucks on a cab! In a dream world I think I'd get two 2 x 10 cabs to go with my Z-28 for versatility and ease of carrying though. At the moment I run the Z through a 1 x 12 3/4 back widebody Mesa cab which has always sounded very big and makes the Z sound pretty good. I did try a maz38 though a 2x12 Z best at Chandlers a few months a go (a used rig - the ONLY Z I have ever seen in the UK so far) - and it was hearing this that I ended up with the Z-28. I just need a cunning plan to get my hands on some Z 2 x10's......
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Post by sicktone on Feb 5, 2006 13:42:44 GMT -7
I'm digging my Z-28. I played a 2x10 combo at Truetone and really liked the 2x10 with the Z-28--more than any other Z with the 2x10 (except maybe the Maz 18). My question is; Has anyone compared the sound of the 2x10 with the 4x10 Z Cab?
The quest never ends...
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Post by jwr on Feb 5, 2006 14:21:09 GMT -7
I've got the 2x10 and 1x12 z cabs. The 1x12 sounds amazing with the 28. It's a lot fatter sounding with the 12 than the 2x10's.
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Post by sicktone on Feb 5, 2006 15:03:53 GMT -7
Thanks jwr...I have you ever run your Z-28 through a 2x12 (like your boogie combo)? Just curious on your take. Some amps sound really good through a 1x12 - maybe more "focused"? I've had some amps that are great with a 1x12--not so great with a 2x12.
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Post by jaybee on Feb 6, 2006 13:49:22 GMT -7
I have a Z-28 I run through a Z 4x10 and a Bogner 2x12 with a gb and a g12h30. Both are open back.
Through the 4x10 the sound is much more compressed and thicker than the 2x12. There is a definite tonal characteristic to the 4x10 where the 2x12 seems a little more neutral. The 4x10 does not have the clarity or top end sparkle that the 2x12 gives the Z-28. That's not to say that those things aren't present in the 4x10, it's just different. It has a huge bottom end.
The '28 sounds a little more "fendery" through the 2x12 and much "heavier" sounding through the 4x10. I play 'buckers, P-90's and single coils through both setups and they all sound really good. It all depends on the sound I'm looking for. I also have a MAZ jr. NR that I perfer through the 4x10. It seems to have a little more body with that cab.
If I had to pick one cab for the '28, I'd go with the 4x10. More vibe there!
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Post by jwr on Feb 6, 2006 20:52:06 GMT -7
It's kinda funny that I started this thread and now I'm giving advice in it!LOL No, I haven't tried it thru the Recto 2x12. I'll give it a try and let ya know what I think. I'll tell you this though, the Celestion g12h 30 watt speaker sounds really good with this amp FWIW. But I would like to try it with a 4x10, thats the route I almost took, but decided to keep things smaller and more portable for now. I'd have to agree with jaybee with his take on the 10's and 12's with this amp, I've had the same experience with my Z 1x12 and 2x10 cabs.
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Post by zane on Mar 14, 2006 16:07:11 GMT -7
My brother built me a 3x10 cab for my Ghia... I'm getting a Z-28 in about a week ...so... I bought the wood today...I have already ordered the tolex, grill cloth, & hardware... so he's gonna be stating on it purty quick... this one will be a 4x10... Jenson P10R alnicos edited to say... CAN'T WAIT!!!! Oh yeah here's some pix of the building process of my 3x10 cab ;^) www.lilypix.com/photos/showalbum.php?aid=4042&uuid=719
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Post by stratdev on May 23, 2006 19:58:14 GMT -7
I have a Z-28 I run through a Z 4x10 and a Bogner 2x12 with a gb and a g12h30. Both are open back. Through the 4x10 the sound is much more compressed and thicker than the 2x12. There is a definite tonal characteristic to the 4x10 where the 2x12 seems a little more neutral. The 4x10 does not have the clarity or top end sparkle that the 2x12 gives the Z-28. That's not to say that those things aren't present in the 4x10, it's just different. It has a huge bottom end. The '28 sounds a little more "fendery" through the 2x12 and much "heavier" sounding through the 4x10. I play 'buckers, P-90's and single coils through both setups and they all sound really good. It all depends on the sound I'm looking for. I also have a MAZ jr. NR that I perfer through the 4x10. It seems to have a little more body with that cab. If I had to pick one cab for the '28, I'd go with the 4x10. More vibe there! I have a Rte 66 head, a Z-28 head, and a Mazerati head that I mix and match with a couple Z-Best 2x12's, a 2x10 Z cab, and a 4x10 Z-cab. The 4x10 is stock with the Dr Z 10's (as is my 2x10 cab). I find the 4x10 perfect with the Mazerati. I find the 2x12 with Blues terrific with the Mazerati as well. The Z-28 is more finicky. It sounded dark, almost lifeless with the 4x10. Sounded great, but beamy with the 2x10; sounds terrific through 2 Blues. But the speaker combination that has really worked with the Z-28 is a Z-Best with either of these combinations: a greenback/alnico Tubby or an Eminence GB12/Red Fang. Later this week I'm trying out a greenback/Blue in one of the Z-Bests. Truth be told...I'm an incorrigible speaker tweaker. By itself, a greenback held no real allure for me . But with an alnico, the greenback seems to be a surprise (at least for me) missing link. I got the 4x10 for the Z-28 specifically, but it sounds so much better with the Mazerati. If alnico is not your thing a real nice ceramic pairing is the Eminence GB12/Greenback or a Greenback/G12H30. Both have a breathless quality that lends itself to the natural OD of a pushed Z-28. damn...where's my power screwdriver?
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Post by taswegian on May 24, 2006 1:08:31 GMT -7
I have a Z-28 I run through a Z 4x10 and a Bogner 2x12 with a gb and a g12h30. Both are open back. Through the 4x10 the sound is much more compressed and thicker than the 2x12. There is a definite tonal characteristic to the 4x10 where the 2x12 seems a little more neutral. The 4x10 does not have the clarity or top end sparkle that the 2x12 gives the Z-28. That's not to say that those things aren't present in the 4x10, it's just different. It has a huge bottom end. The '28 sounds a little more "fendery" through the 2x12 and much "heavier" sounding through the 4x10. I play 'buckers, P-90's and single coils through both setups and they all sound really good. It all depends on the sound I'm looking for. I also have a MAZ jr. NR that I perfer through the 4x10. It seems to have a little more body with that cab. If I had to pick one cab for the '28, I'd go with the 4x10. More vibe there! Gosh, I would almost say exactly the opposite of this! Maybe it's because the Zbest is closed back. I couldn't believe the volume difference with the 4-10 cab and my stock ZBest. I would say the 4-10 leans more toward the fender side and the Zbest sounds decidedly more British. But it was heaps quieter than the Zbest cab...or the Zbest was heaps louder than the 4-10's. The Zbest had more sparkle on top, more body and girth and lots more volume. It is much more the sound I'm looking to use than the 4-10, but with the 4-10 you could drive the amp harder, better maybe for a small club, and I agree it compresses more and lead playing was very easy cranked up through the 4-10. It just didn't have the body of the Zbest. It is a pretty easy cab to haul around though, even though it's a 4-10. It is very focused also. Still a nice tight bottom end. The Zbest just sounds so HUGE and I agree, the V30 throws out some nice sparkle from the Z28 while the G12H30 gives it some grunt. Either combination is fantastic. Just depends what suits your needs. I think the 4-10 is slightly easier to lug than the Zbest but it's marginal. Get both!
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Post by BW on May 24, 2006 6:07:25 GMT -7
Best of both worlds--The Hantone 'Zanebro' 1012. haven't used it w/ a Z-28. but it ROCKS with a Senior OR a Ghia. Special thanks to Zane and Russ for the 'field research'...
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Post by rcrecelius on May 24, 2006 7:42:51 GMT -7
Best of both worlds--The Hantone 'Zanebro' 1012. haven't used it w/ a Z-28. but it ROCKS with a Senior OR a Ghia. Special thanks to Zane and Russ for the 'field research'... I sure wish I could do some field research with that cab
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Post by BW on May 24, 2006 8:13:22 GMT -7
I'll BET you could, I'll meetcha halfway if you wanna, I'm sure Zane wouldn't mind, wouldja Zano?
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Post by zane on May 24, 2006 18:21:14 GMT -7
No ,I wouldn't mind at all...I'd like to see what every one thinks about it ;^)
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Post by BW on May 24, 2006 22:21:21 GMT -7
Well there ya go. OK Tas, its on its way down....;^)
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Post by taswegian on May 24, 2006 23:02:20 GMT -7
I think I missed something! Who's sending what where? If it gets shipped down here for me to "try" it might go mysteriously "missing" in shipping! What speakers are in the 1012 Hantone Zanebro ? Would look great with a red or blonde Z. Too cool.
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Post by zane on May 25, 2006 3:01:10 GMT -7
Well I wanted to put some speakers that had the same power rating so one wouldn't "overpower" the other....so I put some Eminence "Legend" in it , both are 75w...it has a 105(the 10"), & 125(the 12")...I think they sound purty good ;^) Yeah the "twotone" look was done for that reason, in case someone had two different heads ;^)
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Post by rcrecelius on May 25, 2006 7:16:59 GMT -7
zane, Thanks for the gracious offer. If BW still has that cab in his posession a couple weeks from now, I might take it for a test drive. I think we're playing acoustic most of this week then off next week so I would have much chance to test drive if I took it right now. BTW...are ya'll gonna design a head cab to match that "crazy thang"?
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Post by BW on May 25, 2006 8:17:49 GMT -7
Just kiddin' Tas! just figgered since Ronnie was 'unplugged' this weekend, I might as well volunteer something that's not mine to somebody else that could have a little fun w/ it...with Zane's approval of course. I'm doin' a jam tonight at the Keys Lounge, and I'll only be playing first set and a little at about 1:45 am (Yawn...) so I'm not gonna take the 1012 tonight. Much too nice to take a chance on gettin' beer spilled on/in it.
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Post by rcrecelius on May 25, 2006 8:47:48 GMT -7
I'm doin' a jam tonight at the Keys Lounge, and I'll only be playing first set and a little at about 1:45 am (Yawn...) so I'm not gonna take the 1012 tonight. Much too nice to take a chance on gettin' beer spilled on/in it. Hmmm...I get through with my gig at 11pm...if I aint too tired I might come up for a bit. I'd love to plug into your Zbest sometime too...just to see what a Z28 sounds like through it.
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Post by BW on May 25, 2006 15:58:59 GMT -7
Done deal!
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Post by taswegian on May 25, 2006 21:24:48 GMT -7
Can you feel the love! What a great forum Ronnie, love to hear what you think of the Z28/Zbest combination. I have no idea how it would be with a tele. I'm thinkin' you'll dig it though. I'm starting to think multiple cabs could be very handy as opposed to multiple amps. A bit cheaper too.
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