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Post by cactuskurt on Mar 21, 2010 9:07:40 GMT -7
I've been playing the Remedy on 1/2 power (no attenuation) almost exclusively for gigs/rehearsals... until last night. Our band was playing a 200-300 seat club, and I decided to run the Remedy at full power and use an OCD pedal for leads etc. Wow! I thought the Remedy sounded fantastic on 1/2 power, but it really shines on the full power setting! The amp seems to "open up" more on the full power setting, and it's not THAT much louder. I used a stock telecaster the entire night. I had the High volume at 10:00 and the Normal volume at 11:00 (cleanish/edge of breakup w/ a tele) with no attenuation. The tone controls were bass @ 9:00, mids @ 12:00, and treble @ 9:00 and my tele never sounded better.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Mar 21, 2010 12:11:57 GMT -7
I like mine on full power with an Airbrake over half power without. It is fatter, isn't it? More swirl too..
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Post by doctorice on Mar 21, 2010 12:14:23 GMT -7
I like mine on full power with an Airbrake over half power without. It is fatter, isn't it? More swirl too.. +1 Good succinct description, Steve.
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Post by ks1733 on Mar 26, 2010 7:20:42 GMT -7
Yeah, the tone is a bit fatter in full power. I also think it has just a touch more gain, possibly. I think the fatness of the tone is from driving the speakers that extra little bit. 1/2 power is still really good, I almost prefer it in some ways, which is a first for me. It seems a bit cleaner, but still has the same punch and feel as full power.
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Post by bradtfw on Apr 14, 2010 23:15:38 GMT -7
I think it would be really great if the half power/full power function could be controlled by a footswitch.
I really like running the Remedy on half power around 1:00 on high and 11:00 on normal. However, with no more clean headroom available I can't use a pedal to boost for leads.
Being able to switch instantly to full power would be a great boost, although it may be too loud for some.
Anyways, just thought I would see if anyone was thinking the same thing.
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Post by prowler on Apr 15, 2010 4:21:34 GMT -7
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Post by tubestack on Apr 23, 2010 16:56:38 GMT -7
You know, all this full/half-power talk got me playing my Remedy on full power the other night.
And now I can't turn back, damn you all... ;D
I was mostly using half-power until now and thoroughly enjoying it. I used full power here and there, but sparingly. (I think I knew what would happen if I did it too much... LOL!)
Now, anything other than full and it just ain't the same. It's an incredible amp on half, but on full it takes it to a whole other level.
Pure tone ecstasy... I can't get enough!
I don't think that ol' half/full toggle on the rear will see much action anymore...
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Post by tubestack on May 26, 2010 18:30:53 GMT -7
I've been wondering if using a lower-wattage 1x12 would get a better sound in 1/2 power mode?
Seems like 1/2 power possibly isn't as lovely as full power because the speakers aren't being pushed as hard, operating well below their wattage handling, esp. with a 100 watt 4x12, and even with a 50w Z Best (G12M/G12H).
I've been wondering if a Greenback-loaded 25watt 1x12 would sound better with the Remedy in 1/2 power... might make it more useful, and toneful, for home/tiny club use.
Been eying up that new Traynor 1x12 cab that pairs with the Dark Horse (G12M loaded)...
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Post by tubestack on May 26, 2010 18:33:54 GMT -7
This would be pretty sweet with a Remedy on top...
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Post by Joey Beverages on May 26, 2010 18:43:41 GMT -7
This would be pretty sweet with a Remedy on top... one day I'd like to give that combination a spin (Remedy w/Darkhorse) ....
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Post by benttop (Steve) on May 26, 2010 19:02:09 GMT -7
Seems like 1/2 power possibly isn't as lovely as full power because the speakers aren't being pushed as hard, operating well below their wattage handling, esp. with a 100 watt 4x12, and even with a 50w Z Best (G12M/G12H). In my opinion it is all perception. you can prove that to yourself by recording the amp @ half and full power - they will sound identical. But when you listen with your ears in a live room, high power has more of everything, because it's louder!
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Post by tubestack on Jun 1, 2010 20:19:19 GMT -7
Seems like 1/2 power possibly isn't as lovely as full power because the speakers aren't being pushed as hard, operating well below their wattage handling, esp. with a 100 watt 4x12, and even with a 50w Z Best (G12M/G12H). In my opinion it is all perception. you can prove that to yourself by recording the amp @ half and full power - they will sound identical. But when you listen with your ears in a live room, high power has more of everything, because it's louder! You make a good point, bro. But it's a good excuse to buy the Traynor cab, no? LOL
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Post by tubestack on Jun 23, 2010 19:55:38 GMT -7
This would be pretty sweet with a Remedy on top... Well, I bought the DarkHorse cab... and it is pretty damn sweet with a Remedy on top! Fits perfectly, like it was made for the head. Looks wicked. I mainly bought this for basement playing, and man, it definitely works for that. I'm finding with the Remedy on 1/2 power and my AirBrake at two notches, it's a perfect, lower volume version of the tone I get with my Z Best (G12H/G12M) and 4x12 (G12M) when the Remedy's rocking on full power. It's exactly what I was hoping for and I'm really pleased. Now, it's got me toying with the idea of swapping in a Scumback M75, 65watt, so that I can use the DarkHorse cab for both 1/2 and full power. Just not sure if I can get the same tone as I'm getting now with the 25watt greenback, when running 1/2 power. A 65watt speaker won't be pushed the same way at the same volumes, etc. But it would be pretty sweet to have 1/2 and full power be available with this 1x12. Anyways, all in all, 1/2 power on the Remedy sounds WAY better when you're able to drive a speaker to the sweet spot, rather than barely pushing a 2x12 or 4x12. Mission accomplished!
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Post by chetz on Jun 24, 2010 23:28:27 GMT -7
I have found that the Aracom attenuator with my Remedy at full power and Z Best cab is the best for "bedroom" volume levels. The Remedy and Z Best are incredible to me, my favorites.
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Post by zone47 on Aug 16, 2010 7:59:20 GMT -7
Seems like 1/2 power possibly isn't as lovely as full power because the speakers aren't being pushed as hard, operating well below their wattage handling, esp. with a 100 watt 4x12, and even with a 50w Z Best (G12M/G12H). In my opinion it is all perception. you can prove that to yourself by recording the amp @ half and full power - they will sound identical. But when you listen with your ears in a live room, high power has more of everything, because it's louder! To me, the full power sounds punchier no matter what. I found out ahead of time where the volume knobs had to be for full power to match the half power volume, then did an AB. I played on half power for a while, stopped, turned the volume down and flipped the full power on. The full power has more Mojo, more dynamics and just a better tone to my ears. I haven't tried an attenuator yet, but that may be the way I use the amp if it sounds better than using the switch.
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Post by John on Aug 26, 2010 10:11:02 GMT -7
I'll bring this thread back up to the top...
Since I've had my Remedy, I've always used it at 1/2 power.
But today...even squished at bedroom level with an airbrake, I tried it on full volume.
There is so much more harmonic content when pushed hard. The 'magic' just leaped out of the amp. Now I'm REALLY glad I didn't buy that Z-28 a few days a go. It really would have been sitting in my basement.
Unless my airbrake is stolen or broken, I'm never going back to the 1/2 volume.
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Post by skeets1640 on Aug 26, 2010 11:00:53 GMT -7
Hmm interesting John. I have always played mine on half power due to volume, but all this talk about how much better full power is makes me think I should just switch to Full power. How much louder is it really I'm thinking it really won't be that much louder. I have a Brakelite so I can tame it to a degree. Going to have to give this a try next time I'm at the rehearsal space
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Aug 26, 2010 13:25:00 GMT -7
Hmm interesting John. I have always played mine on half power due to volume, but all this talk about how much better full power is makes me think I should just switch to Full power. How much louder is it really I'm thinking it really won't be that much louder. I have a Brakelite so I can tame it to a degree. Going to have to give this a try next time I'm at the rehearsal space It will be 3db louder. Since the first click on the Brake Lite is -2db, you will enjoy a 1db increase in volume by running the amp on full power with the BL on one click, as compared to half power with the BL on thru. Most folks can't hear a 1db increase in volume, unless they are the db police, in which case they can hear microdb's.
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Post by canes on Aug 26, 2010 15:57:38 GMT -7
Dang I forgot to switch mine to full last time I went out... i'll have to remember that!
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Post by zone47 on Feb 9, 2013 17:43:03 GMT -7
I like mine on full power with an Airbrake over half power without. It is fatter, isn't it? More swirl too.. I was noticing that too .... I think it is fatter with full power on. The trick is to power it up on half power and then you don't notice the difference!
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Post by mytone100 on Feb 10, 2013 5:44:23 GMT -7
Aside from the extra power, punch and girth. There is something 4 tubes produce in the harmonic structure and overtones that 2 tubes just cant pull off. I'm a long, long way from explaining it but I sure know its there.
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Post by LT on Feb 10, 2013 9:16:15 GMT -7
I always run mine on full power for the reasons noted here. I do the same with my Mark V...always on 90w for all channels.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Feb 10, 2013 11:37:23 GMT -7
Well since I wrote that, I've realized that it is as much perception as reality. Regardless, the Remedy roars on full power.
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Post by Sam on Feb 15, 2013 4:45:12 GMT -7
Guys, i have the Remedy and Z Best. At gigs I can get it in half power volumes around noon and 10 o'clock and get a good rhythm tone which can be boosted for solos. If I switch to full power with these settings is it going to be stupidly louder? Will I still get break up at a decentish volume or will the attenuator be needed. Thanks guys.
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Post by redzsrock on Feb 16, 2013 20:04:34 GMT -7
I gotta agree with what's already been said here about full power. To me, the Remedy just swallows you up in tone (in a very good way) on full power. I'm running mine through an airbrake, usually on "3", into a Z 1x12 "open" with a Celestion Gold. Pure tonal heaven to my ears.
We played a local "battle of bands", and people were like "what the heck are you playing through?". It just ROCKS!!!
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Post by zone47 on Mar 7, 2013 10:31:03 GMT -7
I always run mine on full power for the reasons noted here. I do the same with my Mark V...always on 90w for all channels. So is that the way it's set up.... the half power cuts out two tubes entirely? That is really weird! I've pulled two tubes out of my Marshall superlead before and just ran the other two (switching the impedence too) and couldn't tell any hit in tone. I wonder why the Remedy takes such a hit in tone on 1/2 power if indeed the same thing is happening?
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Post by nigel (Rick) on Mar 7, 2013 15:14:41 GMT -7
^^^ So is that the way it's set up.... the half power cuts out two tubes entirely?
I'd Leave all the tubes in. The Remedy always delivers power to all 4 power tubes.
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Post by doctorice on Mar 7, 2013 15:17:17 GMT -7
^^^ So is that the way it's set up.... the half power cuts out two tubes entirely? I'd Leave all the tubes in. The Remedy always delivers power to all 4 power tubes. Agreed. Do not remove tubes. Dr Z's half power "magic" might go up in smoke if ya do
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Post by Lefty on Mar 7, 2013 17:22:20 GMT -7
DO NOT RUN THE REMEDY ON TWO TUBES! That's not how the 1/2-Full power switch works. The cut you hear is "more or less" in the pre-amp section. Let's say in 1/2 power it's only delivering 1/2 the signal to the (4) power tubes.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Mar 8, 2013 6:30:41 GMT -7
I always run mine on full power for the reasons noted here. I do the same with my Mark V...always on 90w for all channels. So is that the way it's set up.... the half power cuts out two tubes entirely? That is really weird! I've pulled two tubes out of my Marshall superlead before and just ran the other two (switching the impedence too) and couldn't tell any hit in tone. I wonder why the Remedy takes such a hit in tone on 1/2 power if indeed the same thing is happening? It doesn't take a hit in tone at all. With more volume you feel its authority better, and the acoustic interaction with your guitar improves for more sustain. It is your perception that is being adjusted here, not the tone. I suggest a test. Come into your music room cold, switch the Remedy to half power and fire up. Dial up your sweetest tone - it is right there. After playing for 15 minutes, switch it up to full power. You just get MORE. 3db more to be precise.
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