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Post by The Rev on Mar 15, 2010 13:47:41 GMT -7
I love my 66 I have a ZBest 2x12 and a Bogner Cube that I use it with and I've done several successful recordings with it. But I need some input on the amp it's self. Have anyone found a sweet spot "volume" where the amp performs the best?
Let me know what you think.
Jimmie
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2010 15:35:27 GMT -7
Most seem to say all dials, 3 o'clock. When I play at church or at home I like: treble: 9-10 o'clock bass: 3 o'clock volume: 8-10 o'clock That's using one Celestion G12-65. Your sweet spot may be different. Just play around with the knobs next time you play. See what works for you.
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Post by zdogma on Mar 15, 2010 17:57:18 GMT -7
Pretty similar for me.
I tend to like the volume 2-3 oclock through my open back Z112/g12-65, treble full, bass noon.
I find with the Z best I have it down around 11-12 noon volume, treble and bass full. The Z best is a little too loud above that and I can't hear the monitors or my voice. Turning up the treble/bass gives me a bit more dirt/looseness at lower vols.
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Post by The Rev on Mar 16, 2010 9:20:57 GMT -7
Thanks y'all I will give your suggestions a try.
Peace, Jimmie
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Post by zdogma on Mar 16, 2010 10:38:52 GMT -7
Just had a look over at your site, great stuff.
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Post by The Rev on Mar 25, 2010 7:42:06 GMT -7
Thanks zdogma..... Were trying hard.
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Post by Dr.T on Mar 25, 2010 10:03:03 GMT -7
Great band!
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Post by smolder on Apr 7, 2010 8:53:19 GMT -7
I rarely get past noon and do not feel like I am missing anything.
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Post by hymns on Apr 8, 2010 20:36:33 GMT -7
I looked at your site to.Loved the funk, blues,and playing.I really love the message with it
hymns John
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Post by Eddie on Apr 9, 2010 9:08:16 GMT -7
I looked at and listened to some of your stuff at myspace site.
WOW! If you find a "sweeter" spot than what your playing on those tracks, you mat exceed the allowable amount of tonal mojo for any mortal! Sounds great.
Love the tone. Love the message. Peace, Eddie
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Post by Rik on Apr 9, 2010 20:47:50 GMT -7
I looked at and listened to some of your stuff at myspace site. WOW! If you find a "sweeter" spot than what your playing on those tracks, you mat exceed the allowable amount of tonal mojo for any mortal! Sounds great. Love the tone. Love the message. Peace, Eddie +1000 that sounds really good!
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Post by kich on Apr 19, 2010 13:06:02 GMT -7
Sounds good to me also!
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Post by miroslav on Apr 21, 2010 12:25:24 GMT -7
I tend to run my 66 dimed, but with a MiniMass attenuator, and that gets moved around a bit. The bass and treble varies, but usually more bass than treble.
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Post by unclemax on Apr 22, 2010 6:17:59 GMT -7
Sweet spot for me is when the 66 is on. Seriously to me it is not so much the volume control as the tone knobs that change the character of the amp. By the way sounds real good what you are doing now.
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Post by Rhino on Apr 22, 2010 6:21:25 GMT -7
Sweet spot for me is when the 66 is on. Seriously to me it is not so much the volume control as the tone knobs that change the character of the amp. By the way sounds real good what you are doing now. I'll second this sentiment! I've played several gigs with my Rt. and G12-65 1x12 Z-Best and regardless of where the volume is, the rig sounds fantastic! I'm giving some thought to a plexi baffle so I can turn it up a bit, just to see what happens in a live setting, but I really don't feel I'm missing all that much...but certainly could be wrong!
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Post by LittleC on Apr 28, 2010 17:24:19 GMT -7
Jimmie, that's tough. There are so many variables (starting with guitar & pickups and speakers & cab). It WILL vary with each one. And you guys diming those tone controls, wow! Sometimes, I don't quite make it to 12-noon. After that I find the treble starts to increase attack and sensitivity, making the overall amp more sensitive to the picking attack from my guitar playing. With the bass, past 12 it starts to fatten or thicken the overall crunch level. Again, this varies with which cabs I'm using and whether bucker, P-90, singles, etc are pushing it. As for volume, I find it works pretty straight ahead as you would expect a volume control to work. Until you get past 12, 1, then it kicks into overdrive and those tone settings really become important with either keeping it tamed or letting it rip - depends upon what your after.
Anyway, that my take.
BTW - Lester's an animal on those drums! :-) Nice work, guys.
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Post by The Rev on Jun 6, 2010 17:18:43 GMT -7
Thanks again for all the input on finding the sweet spot and for all the kind words about my stuff. I finally got around to cranking the 66 up (more than I had been running) and WOW now I know what I've been missing....
Thanks again, Jimmie
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Post by troutstrat on Jun 7, 2010 11:04:51 GMT -7
Treble maxed. Bass floats around 2pm to 5pm (no fishing jokes please). Volume Noon to 3 pm. Airbrake 2-4 clicks. Z Best w Weber 1265's. I always go for a nice crunch to overdrive tone and back my guitar volume down the clean up.
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Post by dixiechicken on Jun 10, 2010 15:42:24 GMT -7
DC here! I cant decide - I actually like it with volume at 9 o'clock and treble & bass dimed - thats with my Warmoth Telecaster. Pretty much like it anywhere - depending on what I go for - lols Cheers: Dixiechicken
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Post by Craigo87 on Jun 15, 2010 8:54:26 GMT -7
Wow, band sounds great. Love the funk. I think you've got the tone thing going on there. Great tone with that ES-335 coupled with the Route 66 My wife happened by while I was watching the vid at your site and now she wants to get your Christmas DVD, although I think she'd like the CD version for her Zune. Craigo
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Post by pvfan on Dec 29, 2010 13:22:08 GMT -7
Big & Soft T - 0 B - 0 V - max
Proto-Marshall T - max B - start at 0, raise to taste, not too much V - noon to max
Twin T - noon B - noon V - noon
Phatazz Nouveau Jazz T - 0 B - max V - to taste
or, if using the 66 as a platform for tone-sculpting with pedals instead of the amp, I usually go for a neutral, balanced tone, just keeping all the knobs equal and incrementing them equally until I'm at the desired volume!
Speaker(s) probably matters more with this amp than others, and the one I'm using is very different from the speakers I see in most signatures here in terms of power handling and sensitivity ... so YMWMDV (yer mileage will mos' def' vary, possibly very much).
I think I may try an H65 with it before finally getting a Z-Best. I'd also like to throw this amp into a couple of Greenbacks! You can bet yer bippy on that! But the Swamp Thang makes this amp the LOUDEST amp I've ever owned, and I've owned the XTCs and Ubers and all the rest. It may not be as earthquakingly loud as a Sunn or some crap into eleven 8x12s, but I believe my rig is more musically loud than anything, and I've been really really doing a lot of trial and error in the last 10 years living by myself in a home studio in the woods. What I've come up with so far after trying most configs and brands under the sun is:
Plimsoul (w/ 30 db of gain) + Route 66 (w/ built-in Trumpet of God) + Swamp Thang (actually Cthulhu in speaker form)
gives me any tone I can dream of at ANY volume, because even though this config is massive sounding as anything, it does not really wimp out too much with all knobs on 1.
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Post by pvfan on Dec 29, 2010 13:26:44 GMT -7
Plimsoul (w/ 30 db of gain) + Route 66 (w/ built-in Trumpet of God) + Swamp Thang (actually Cthulhu in speaker form) gives me any tone I can dream of at ANY volume, because even though this config is massive sounding as anything, it does not really wimp out too much with all knobs on 1. well *most* any tone. Certainly for the heavy stuff. I'm not a country dude per se, etc. But with these 3 items I have certainly found Distortion Disneyland.
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Post by BW on Dec 29, 2010 23:53:44 GMT -7
(no fishing jokes please) This from a guy called troutstrat.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2010 11:38:08 GMT -7
My settings have changed a bit since I heard a friend playing through my rig. Lately I've been going with: Treble: 2-5 o'clock Bass: 3 o'clock Volume: 1 o'clock
I've also heat up the output tubes a bit. I am going with a bias point closer to 70% dissipation. This allows me to keep the volume a bit lower on the amp. If I turn the amp volume up to around 2-3 I get more compression than I am looking for. With the amp vol. at 1 o'clock I can get the head room I want and also get a nice crunch and lead tone with minor adjustments to my guitar vol..
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Post by pvfan on Mar 7, 2011 22:29:50 GMT -7
Big & SoftT - 0 B - 0 V - max Proto-MarshallT - max B - start at 0, raise to taste, not too much V - noon to max TwinT - noon B - noon V - noon Phatazz Nouveau JazzT - 0 B - max V - to taste here's another setting: Small Club BebopT - 9:00 am B - 11:00 am V - 9:00 am using a Gold 10" with my 66 and I get in Charlie's neighborhood, straight-in with a Wolfgang hardtail. Percussive, cavernous, sweet.
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Post by Joey Beverages on Mar 9, 2011 7:56:29 GMT -7
@ Good'n'Mike, thanks for the posting for the small club bebop setting .... may be trying this out sometime in the future cheers always, eh Joel
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Post by mmantle on Mar 9, 2011 9:15:34 GMT -7
In regards to settings, so much depends on the guitar you are using and whether or not there are other guitar players in the band. For the pst few months I have had the treble at about 2:00, volume about 2:00 and bass about 2:00 with a strat, and often a lot less with my 335... which I find really thick and bassy out of the 66. I have, on occasion, brought my bass down to about 8 or 9:00 to cut through the mix better.
I play in a band with 2 guitar players, so its a bit of challenge sometimes to get the tone you really want and still cut through and be heard... especially on a really rocking tune... I mean, I COULD be really heard if I wanted to with the 66 by just taking the Airbrake out of the equation, but, that would just be insanely loud... It wouldnt be the first time my bandmates had to duck out of the way from the sonic onslaught brought forth by the 66 however!
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Post by Dr.T on Mar 10, 2011 1:26:22 GMT -7
Depends on the guitar: if I set the amp at the break up point for the strat I can never get clean tones with the LP...
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