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Post by Phil (aka Phil) on Jul 17, 2006 5:53:09 GMT -7
I have never had the pleasure of playing through a SRZ (yet!), but I was just wondering how loud one of these really is. I understand that this is a loud amp meant for stage use, but I was hoping someone could relate it to another Z amp setup. I rarely take my SPL meter to my Z rig, but my seat of the pants meter goes like this: my Ghia's volume is very manageable. The Route 66 through my Z-Best 2X12 I think is pretty darn loud. I kind of judge my MAZ 38 NR through the Z-Best to be about as loud. Probably because of the Blues and an open back cab, I think my Stingray is even louder than the 66/38/Z-Best. When I demo'd a RxES (with Overdose engaged) through a Z-best I thought it was the loudest Z amp I'd ever heard. I'll bet the Delta 88 is capable of even more volume, but the tone stack of the SRZ-65 hits the power section pretty hard. Are we talking Delta 88 levels with the SRZ?? I realize this is all somewhat subjective.
Thanks,
PDW
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Post by taswegian on Jul 17, 2006 6:21:08 GMT -7
In Mactions' post comparing the Route 66 and SRZ-65 he talks about playing the same set twice, once with the 66 and one with the 65 and that the 66 was alot louder or harder to control volume wise than the 65. I'm sure that it could get dirty quicker with the use of the master volume. Having said that, I'm sure if you cranked the master it could get to stadium volumes! Good question, look forward to some user replies.
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Post by hipfan on Jul 17, 2006 8:10:48 GMT -7
I find the SRZ that I'm using to be one very loud amp. Mine is an early large head box version that, as the story goes, Dr. Z built for Joe Walsh. It's the loudest, firmest 2xEL34 amp I own, a group which includes a DST U34-CL, a Mojotone Tone Machine, and an early 70's Traynor YBA-1 Bassmaster. I'm not sure if there's a direct correlation or not, but the plate voltage on the SRZ also is higher than any of the other three when measured through my Weber Bias Rite. It's around 500V, while the others are in the 430-450V range.
The amp really sounds best when cranked up really nicely, IMO. I find that the sweetspot occurs with the gain at about 3:00 and the master anywhere from 11:00 - 3:00. Use of low sensitivity speakers like Greenbacks (and a lot of them) is helpful to keep the total volume down.
I would think that the SRZ would have a good bit more volume on tap than the Route 66, all other things being equal. I've never played a Delta 88, so I can't comment on that one.
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Post by myles on Jul 17, 2006 9:03:03 GMT -7
It is as loud as any 50 watt Marshall .... it is a 65+ watt amp.
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Post by johnnyl on Jul 17, 2006 12:08:50 GMT -7
Take care of that amp Tony! Glad to hear she's sounding good.
Johnny
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jul 18, 2006 6:13:54 GMT -7
My impression of the SRZ-65 side of my 6545 is that it is loud, but the amp compresses a lot more than the other Z amps I've played. They are all a lot more dynamic. I was able to get the 6545 and the Stingray to cooperate on a gig the other night, by putting the Stingray through my Airbrake set two clicks down, and running the 6545 through my Hot Plate set at -4db AND with master volume set at noon - there was a LOT more available from the 6545.
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maction
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Post by maction on Jul 19, 2006 8:48:01 GMT -7
I haven't cranked my SRZ-65 and Route 66 and A/B'ed the volume, but it sure sounds like fun! homework...
the only time I've really been able to totally open my SRZ up in a performance, without the sound man getting on me, was in a 3,000 seat venue. so it's a good thing, for me at least, that it comes with a master volume.
I will say however that the master volume on the SRZ-65 might fool you into thinking that it is quieter than it really is. more than any other tube amp that I've played, the master volume works throughout its entire range. it doesn't jump up after 9 o'clock and not do anything after 1 o'clock.
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