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Post by Dr.T on Sept 8, 2006 5:58:21 GMT -7
Hi everybody, here's Tom, italian guy armed with R66 and 2x12 Z-Best. I like very much playing with treb at 3, bass at 10-11 and vol a 2-3, it sounds very rich and fat with my strat deluxe with Voodo PU and my Tele 52 reissue. My toy works swelling up an dn guitar's volume to clean up the sound, with amp only or with my Fulldrive/ OCD on. This for 90% of my playing... Well, my only problem is in that 10% when I want some more volume for solos, for ex. turning on my Fat Boost, I only add some distortion to the sound and not volume.
Must I use my amp not crancked as i like for 90% or there is another solution for leads??
Thanks for answers Tom
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Post by John on Sept 8, 2006 6:30:37 GMT -7
THESE GO TO ELEVEN! But seriously folks... My Route 66 is so dynamic that with my Fulldrive II, kicking it on adds some volume and distortion. I've found that backing off the guitar volume not only cleans things up, but it drops the volume enough that it seems as if the amp volume is in play. I'm not sure what to tell you. Sounds like you may have had exposure to multi channel amps in the past. But the 66 is what it is. You may have to really back off the guitar volume in order to get the dynamic change you are looking for.
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Post by Curt on Sept 8, 2006 6:49:43 GMT -7
Try an Xotic RC Booster for a slighly fattening clean boost when needed.
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Post by Dr.T on Sept 8, 2006 8:05:06 GMT -7
Thanx for immediate and future answers.
Hi gtrman3, can U tell me your regulation on R66 an FD2 so I can try? Thanks a lot
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Post by rcrecelius on Sept 8, 2006 8:20:27 GMT -7
Tom, The RC is a great pedal and I'd recommend it as well...just be aware that when youre running the 66 that hot, anything you do to send more signal into it is also going to create a little(or a lot) more overdrive...thats just the way it works with tube amps.
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Post by Dr.T on Sept 8, 2006 8:27:38 GMT -7
I own a Fulltone Fat Boost, I think I might lower a little amp's volume knob, so amount of signal won't be traduced in overdriving but in volume... I heard about RC booster many times, sometimes i will be glad to try one of them, i wish to know differences between it and Fulltone FB. Thankssssss
PS, I'm supposed to be one of few people in Italy owning a DrZ: Very proud of that!!!
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Post by John on Sept 8, 2006 9:01:15 GMT -7
Tom, what do you mean by 'regulation'?
What 'settings' do I use? Put another way: How do I have the dials of the 66 and FDII positioned?
Is that what you are asking?
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Post by Dr.T on Sept 8, 2006 10:52:35 GMT -7
Yes, thanks I meaned knob positions... Thanks for help
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Post by jwr on Sept 8, 2006 15:34:48 GMT -7
Tom, try running your Fatboost with the volume all the way up and the gain off. Leave the small tone knob half way up. Start there and turn the gain knob up until you hit your desired volume. Also, experiment with the tone knob to help cut through a bit, there are lot's of tones in that pedal! The Fulltone should be able to get you a good solo volume boost. I highly recommend the RC as well, it's a little cleaner than the Fatboost. Both pedals are great. Jason
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Post by yinielin on Sept 8, 2006 18:47:35 GMT -7
Surely if your playing that loud you have a PA system right??? Just mic the amp and make the sound man lower and higher u for solos.
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Post by Dr.T on Sept 9, 2006 2:31:03 GMT -7
Oh, no, I don't play that loud, it could be too much even for a metal band!! I only like the richness of crancked sound, but I own a DrZ Air Brake in position 3-4 on my own and 1-2 with the band. At position 1-2 speakers work well, leaving the sound similar to that not attenuated. Higher the attenuation, less treble frequencies but pedals work similar.
Thanks Jwr for suggestion, in effect dynamics of Fat Boost are affected by gain knob, tone knob is for attenuating trebles when gain's over h 12.
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Post by John on Sept 9, 2006 5:55:46 GMT -7
An Airbrake will squash down the dynamics of the amp. The more you turn down the Airbrake, the more it will seem compressed.
What most people agree on is: Use as little attenuation (Airbrake) as possible, even if you have to make some adjustments to the knobs on the amp.
But as for my settings:
Route 66: Everything on 3:00
Fulldrive II:
Volume: 12:00 Tone: 12:00 Switch: FM Overdrive: 11:00
I don't use the Boost much.
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Post by Dr.T on Sept 9, 2006 7:19:58 GMT -7
I agree: Air B. squashes down frequences and boost function on FD2 doesn't sing like it must. Obviously, i attenuate more only when someone's in the house! With FD in front of OCD (I own...) or similar, i think everyone can get every kind of sound simply by swelling up and down guitar's volume.
I own this rig by jan 2006 and I learned how to enjoy tone as pure as possible thanks to this amp. R66 is day by day kickin' out pedals... I play everithing, also rock pop covers that requires some "pop" effects like delay, chorus, phaser, tremolo. Now they're in the B channel of looper activated only few few times, remaining in the A only wha, FD2 and OCD.
No need of compressor, non need of chorus (if U have a good gtr, R66 choruses naturally your sound), non need of reverbs (harmonic richness gives the ambient to the sound). I think you did the same...
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Post by taswegian on Sept 10, 2006 3:59:17 GMT -7
Tom, not sure if your FF2 has the compression cut switch but if it does you can use the boost side to REALLY raise the level for solos. Just set your gain accordingly. You should be ale to get volume boost out of the Fatboost too. Also you could try to run the Fatboost at 18 volts and that will give you heaps more headroom.
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Post by jwr on Sept 10, 2006 16:38:39 GMT -7
The tone knob works on mine no matter where the gain is set, I just checked it. I run my Fatboost at 18 volts and it does help as Tas suggested. That may be all you need to get that extra little bit of volume.
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Post by Laroosco!! on Sept 10, 2006 20:19:48 GMT -7
If your treble knob is up high and the volume is at 2 or 3o'clock than you've pushed the amp about to it's limit.
There is no more headroom and hittin an OD is just going to give you more drive, not more volume.
When I had my Route 66 I ran the treble knob all the way up, bass at noon and the volume around 11:00. This way I had plenty of headroom left and could boost the hell out of it.
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Post by Dr.T on Sept 11, 2006 1:28:24 GMT -7
Thanx. Usually i keep similar settings for strat and tele, switching basses down and volume a little for the 2nd. I'd probably turn volume a little dn to make Fatboost doin' right his job. Will try running a 18 V adapter
PPSS: surprised by your immediate answers and passion that comes out of your experiences. Nice family!
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Post by jab on Sept 11, 2006 18:35:20 GMT -7
i turn my guitar up to about 6/7 dial in the amp, then when i want more i just dime the guitar, the last bit on the volume knob is quite nasty. i don't seem to mess much with the amps controls, mostly controlled by guitar volume
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Post by Telemanic on Sept 12, 2006 16:48:33 GMT -7
I often use my rig in that fashion on stage and have found times when ive got a great texture goin for a particular song, by lowering the guit volume to taste, but then wish to have a volume ONLY boost for a solo, without adding any gain. Its great to have the ability to just tweak the guit knob and go into some more searing tones, but in this case ive found Lovepedals FET boost perfect for what your describing. Sean (lovepedal), calls it a "bone clean" boost, and that is very accurate. it does NOT add any gain at all, but i have to add that it is capable of something like 30db, and will push the frond end of some amps pretty well, and can add a bit of thickness. It may be addicting tho, ...which defeats its purpose! ha! Anyway theres certainly a zillion pedals with "some" capability to be set for clean boost as an alternative sound, but this is one clearly made to do ONLY that, and it does it really well. Cheap too !! Maybe worth a look for ya
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Post by Dr.T on Sept 13, 2006 1:02:13 GMT -7
Now trying Fat Boost with 18 v adapter. Cleaner, fatter, less gain, think that's right solution. Obviously I haven't to cranck amp a lot.
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