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Post by jodyb0429 on Aug 8, 2009 19:35:51 GMT -7
Got first Z in today. It sounds great, got the Greenback in the cabinet. Using the BB preamp can get a really nice tone at a reasonable volume. Next purchase will be an airbrake so I can let the amp do all the talking and leave the BB at the house. Thanks for all the help deciding gang, really proud to be in the Z club Jody
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Post by Ridgeback on Aug 8, 2009 20:30:47 GMT -7
Congratulations. The Z-28 is one of the Doc's best designs. Three knobs and tone to the bone.
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Post by Joey Beverages on Aug 9, 2009 8:40:06 GMT -7
Congrats on the next Z-28. Lookls killer - perfect color combination imho. As for those settings? Yup, they'll work .... but ya might wanna push everything over to 'bout 3:00 ..... ;D ;D cheers always, eh Joel p.s. BB preamp? cool. very nice with the '28. as for the airbrake? ain't got one .. yet; and, ain't never tried one .... yet
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Post by jodyb0429 on Aug 9, 2009 11:30:27 GMT -7
Thanks guys I like it alot. Ive always loved the bite of a strat bridge, but strangely enough Im finding myself on the neck pickup more and more. This amp has a really nice warmth to it I think the deluxe reverb sitting next to it is going to have to move on to some other lucky git picker. Getting together with the guys tonight, see how it sets in the mix. Jody
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Post by bustertheboy on Aug 10, 2009 1:39:25 GMT -7
3,3,3 is nice, tones on full are nice (volume 12 or above), 4, 11, 11 is sweet, 3, 11 2 is great- just experiment Brett ps Read this from: www.guitaramplifierblueprinting.com/doctorzamps2a.htmlThe way the tone stacks work in the Z-28, Route 66, and KT-45 is very unique. If somebody ever says that they had one of these amps and did not like it's tone (as opposed to power output or features), I always seem to have found that it was due to them not using the tone controls over the wide range they have. These three amps almost have something of two volumes (bass and treble) and one "master" (the volume knob). The tone stacks in these amps may be the widest and most effective of any amps I have seen. You need to use the tone controls on these amps, they will get you more diverse range than just about any amp I can think of. and then: This amp did what the Fender Deluxe Reverb did and more. Doing a bit of research and bench testing, this "22" watt rated amp had an output of 35 watts at -10db input signal at 400HZ which was something of a surprise. The EF86 front end was much more quiet than my Deluxe Reverb and more pedal friendly. The amp runs on the edge of class A, even though it is a class A/B amp. A call in to Dr. Z confirmed bias settings of 28-30 milliamps was indeed normal on this amp
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Post by flem on Aug 11, 2009 0:44:06 GMT -7
Grats!
I love mine, ordered it with a 25W GB, great amp. This amp is great with an airbrake, no other pedals required!
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Post by blackice on Aug 11, 2009 6:42:33 GMT -7
Nice Purchase Jody. The 28 sounds good with all my guitars. Brett great description about the tone knobs.
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Post by jodyb0429 on Aug 11, 2009 13:38:11 GMT -7
What do you guys think about the weber mini-mass with this amp? Sure seems like a good buy if it sounds good. Do you think the 25 watt is enough or would the z-28 need the 50 watt. The weber website says that you dont want the wattage of the amp to be right at the edge of the attenuators capacity. Thanks for all the help. I love the 333 on this amp but the 4, 11, 11 with humbuckers is awesome as well if you can take the volume Jody
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Post by bustertheboy on Aug 11, 2009 13:53:45 GMT -7
What do you guys think about the weber mini-mass with this amp? Sure seems like a good buy if it sounds good. Do you think the 25 watt is enough or would the z-28 need the 50 watt. The weber website says that you dont want the wattage of the amp to be right at the edge of the attenuators capacity. Thanks for all the help. I love the 333 on this amp but the 4, 11, 11 with humbuckers is awesome as well if you can take the volume Jody Yep it's a lot of volume. I really like the minimass with the Ghia, and it's certainly usable with the Z-28 but reacts a little differently Brett
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Post by billco on Aug 11, 2009 15:06:48 GMT -7
3,3,3 is nice, tones on full are nice (volume 12 or above), 4, 11, 11 is sweet, 3, 11 2 is great- just experiment Brett ps Read this from: www.guitaramplifierblueprinting.com/doctorzamps2a.htmlThe way the tone stacks work in the Z-28, Route 66, and KT-45 is very unique. If somebody ever says that they had one of these amps and did not like it's tone (as opposed to power output or features), I always seem to have found that it was due to them not using the tone controls over the wide range they have. These three amps almost have something of two volumes (bass and treble) and one "master" (the volume knob). The tone stacks in these amps may be the widest and most effective of any amps I have seen. You need to use the tone controls on these amps, they will get you more diverse range than just about any amp I can think of. and then: This amp did what the Fender Deluxe Reverb did and more. Doing a bit of research and bench testing, this "22" watt rated amp had an output of 35 watts at -10db input signal at 400HZ which was something of a surprise. The EF86 front end was much more quiet than my Deluxe Reverb and more pedal friendly. The amp runs on the edge of class A, even though it is a class A/B amp. A call in to Dr. Z confirmed bias settings of 28-30 milliamps was indeed normal on this amp Thanks for taking the time to post such a detailed and informative discription. The comparison against the Deluxe was especially appreciated. A Z-28 will be my next amp to add to the mix. Thanks again!
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Post by bustertheboy on Aug 12, 2009 0:38:32 GMT -7
My pleasure billco- I found it interesting reading too. After owning a '65 blackface Vibrolux Reverb, I'd agree with the Z-28 pushing 35 watts (like the Vibro) especially sounds that way with efficient speakers! Brett
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Post by jodyb0429 on Aug 12, 2009 10:04:08 GMT -7
If 35 watts, I guess the minimass will need to be the 50W version huh...Do any of you guys use a boost with the Z-28? Does it make it much louder or just give you more saturation? I was wondering since several of those type pedals (bad bob, flying dragon etc) dont have a volume knob. Can u get the extra kick in the pants/oomph/gain you want without adding a lot of volume?
jody
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Post by Joey Beverages on Aug 12, 2009 10:09:34 GMT -7
If 35 watts, I guess the minimass will need to be the 50W version huh...Do any of you guys use a boost with the Z-28? Does it make it much louder or just give you more saturation? I was wondering since several of those type pedals (bad bob, flying dragon etc) dont have a volume knob. Can u get the extra kick in the pants/oomph/gain you want without adding a lot of volume? jody Flying Dragon + Z28 = ;D
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Post by bustertheboy on Aug 13, 2009 13:49:09 GMT -7
If 35 watts, I guess the minimass will need to be the 50W version huh...Do any of you guys use a boost with the Z-28? Does it make it much louder or just give you more saturation? I was wondering since several of those type pedals (bad bob, flying dragon etc) dont have a volume knob. Can u get the extra kick in the pants/oomph/gain you want without adding a lot of volume? jody I suspect not- I contacted Ted Weber- he said the 25 watt one was ok. I think amp ratings have a huge amount to do with what level of distortion is allowed as "clean" Brett
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