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Post by squeallydan on Jan 25, 2006 9:17:05 GMT -7
At what point does your Ghia start to distort. I hturned mine up to about 9oclock and it was still clean. I turned it up to noon and it was getting a little dirty, but it was loud as hell at that point. My ears still hurt.
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Post by guitarman1 on Jan 25, 2006 9:28:34 GMT -7
At what point does your Ghia start to distort. I hturned mine up to about 9oclock and it was still clean. I turned it up to noon and it was getting a little dirty, but it was loud as hell at that point. My ears still hurt. With my Strat/Fralin Blues, I start to get breakup around 3 o'clock if I dig in or play some 13ths. Tone is set around 2 to 3 o'clock. These pups are a little hotter than standard "vintage" type Strat single coils. My PRS Custom 22 with Dragon II pups at 3 o'clock gets more dirt, but these are pretty hot pickups. I put a new production Tong Sol 12AX7 in V1 and got a bit more breakup. This tube is pretty hot and was tested at 110/110. If you don't already have one in there, a 5Y3 should provide some earlier breakup, compared to the usual suspect rectifiers.
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Post by G'OlPeachPhan on Jan 25, 2006 9:53:50 GMT -7
Let's keep relationship topics in the General Forum, OK? ;D only kidding. You can tweak breakup somewhat with tube choices and also speaker choices (some speakers start to break up earlier than others adding to the equation)... That said, I find with the Ghia, this is HUGELY pickup dependent. Hit it with single coils, and edge of breakup tones are anywhere between 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock most of the time, depending on how hot of single coils we're talking. Hit it with medium to higher output 'buckers and you've even got a little breakup at 9 o'clock if you really dig in... With PAF-style lower output 'buckers, my Ghia usually hits edge of breakup around 10 o'clock or a little past (say 10:30 )... A good trick is to roll your guitar volume back to "9" instead of "10" to keep things cleaner with the Ghia, and it really sweetens the tone in a very cool way for rythym playing, or laid back solos... The turn your axe volume up to "10" and your ready to rip and cut even if the Ghia is dialed up relatively clean. The Ghia is a very special amp... It really is my benchmark for how guitars, amps, and player input SHOULD interact with each other. That statement is a little off topic, but I'm getting teary-eyed just thinking about it... *sniff sniff*
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Post by zdogma on Jan 25, 2006 10:49:27 GMT -7
With my tele bridge (SD jerry donahue)I get breakup around 12 oclock, or a little after, around 10 oclock with the 498T in my les paul. It is pretty loud. Try it in a big room and it won't bother you, but at home...
You can roll your volume back even a bit more, to about 6 or so, and hear the output tubes a bit more.
you may need an airbrake for home.
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Post by squeallydan on Jan 25, 2006 13:08:01 GMT -7
Thanks guys. Last night I was using a Mesa closed-back 1x12 and it wasn't breaking up much until I put it at noon, and even then it still had some clean. I don't see how you could turn it up much past that without blowing your ears out.
Will a 2x12 closed back Mesa cab. break up sooner than the 1x12 or what?
Thanks guys for all the input! This is a great forum, and I love this amp.
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Post by guitarman1 on Jan 25, 2006 13:41:21 GMT -7
You can tweak breakup somewhat with tube choices and also speaker choices (some speakers start to break up earlier than others adding to the equation)... +1 about the speakers. You are absolutely correct. Also, using a less efficient speaker will cause more breakup at lower volumes. You would need to turn up the volume to get the same perceived loudness, which in turn would push the amp harder. An example of this would be a Celestion Greenback at 98 db sensitivity compared to a Celestion G12H at 100 db sensitivity. Jensen has the C12Q that is rated at 94 db. I can't accurately comment on the closed Mesa 2x12 'cause I don't have one, but I'm thinking it would be louder due to the increased sound of 2 speakers. An open back cab would probably be less efficient.
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