robyg
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Post by robyg on Oct 8, 2005 14:59:31 GMT -7
Hi All, i am an Italian guy and i am going to buy a Ghia head. I tryed it in the shop and it was fantastic(i play basically Rock, Rock/Blues with Fender Strat std.). My questions is: which is the speaker cab that link better with Ghia? When i tryed it i used Z-best cab(beatiful) but a little bit out of my budget, so staying with DrZ cabs is better the 1x12 or 2x10? Thanks for any suggestion. Bye
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Post by G'OlPeachPhan on Oct 10, 2005 10:36:08 GMT -7
If you're playing mostly roots/blues/country, the 2x10 usually gets the nod. Mostly rock/blues, go with the 1x12. In my opinion, a Vintage 30 is THE single speaker to use with the Ghia, even if you haven't liked them with other amps in the past).
Still, my ultimate recommendation is to save your pennies, or take out a loan, or sell off a few pedals, and get the Z Best... It is THE cab to use with a Ghia. Loaded with the Dr.'s choice of a V30 and H30 wired up to 4 ohms is simply out of this world with the Ghia. Not only is that the most versatile setup of any other cab that I've tried with the Ghia, but it's also the best overall tonality 98% of the time.
I'm going to use a phrase that I've used so many times before in the context of Dr. Z amps - Z just got it right the first time with the Z-Best.
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Post by Lefty on Oct 10, 2005 13:21:12 GMT -7
I'm a big fan of the Z's 10's and in a 2x10 cab they SMOKE! I play everything from blues to rock and it just suits me. I've never personally been a fan of single speaker amps, and for about the same size you can get two 10's and they sure do move alot of air and more bass. You get a more dimensional tone.
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robyg
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Post by robyg on Oct 11, 2005 8:47:50 GMT -7
Hi, many thanks for your suggestion. i heard the Ghia "only" with with z-Best and it is fantastic but I will wait in order to try also the 2x10, meanwhile i'll try to "increase" my pocket.
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Post by anambrose on Oct 11, 2005 22:36:38 GMT -7
I own 2 Ghia's and the beauty of these are they can match up with many cabs/speakers and I've heard these played even thru a 4x12 and sounded great. So by all means check out what the Dr ordered as he has a good ear and as time and $ permit check out other setups. You would have to work very hard to find a speaker/cab setup that sounds bad with these amps.
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Post by G'OlPeachPhan on Oct 13, 2005 8:30:59 GMT -7
You would have to work very hard to find a speaker/cab setup that sounds bad with these amps. Agreed... there is only good, better, and z-best when it comes to speakers/cabs with the Z amps. Not really any way to make them sound "bad."
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Post by fireball on Oct 14, 2005 6:01:44 GMT -7
I sure wish the Ghia had a 16 ohm output. I've been thinking about buying one....but all my speaker cabs are wired to 16 ohm loads and the Ghia only has 4 and 8 ohm outs.
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Post by G'OlPeachPhan on Oct 14, 2005 7:03:06 GMT -7
It's a mismatch, but a I'm 99% sure that your Ghia can safely drive a 16 ohm load out of the 8 ohm tap.
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Post by fireball on Oct 14, 2005 9:35:26 GMT -7
It's a mismatch, but a I'm 99% sure that your Ghia can safely drive a 16 ohm load out of the 8 ohm tap. I'm sure the Ghia would be fine from a safety aspect...but wouldn't the amp be performing less than optimally through a 16 ohm cab?
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Post by G'OlPeachPhan on Oct 14, 2005 14:38:10 GMT -7
Well, I'm not sure about that particular mismatch, but I really like the way the Ghia performs when driving a 4 ohm load with the 8 ohm output tap... The amp breaks up with a little extra character, breaks up a little bit earlier, and seems to sing a little more than usual. (I know that good Dr. has also said that he too likes this mismatch with the Ghia for the same reasons)
Can't hurt to try it with what you've already got and see if you like it!
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Post by hollywood5150 on Oct 19, 2005 21:55:57 GMT -7
If I am correct, you will loose a bunch of headroom if you use a 16ohm cab with a 8ohm head. The head will produce 1/2 of the recommended load. Most of the time you cannot go to a 4ohm cab with 8ohm head, too much load. But I have read that the good Doc. said the transformer in the Gia will handle the 4ohm load and sounds awesome.
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Post by newangel on Oct 20, 2005 12:35:39 GMT -7
I'm currently using a Marshall 8412 4X12 cab, 8ohms...
I think I'd miss some of the bass fullness going any less.
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Post by steveinnashville on Oct 30, 2005 12:47:17 GMT -7
My Ghia even sounds pretty good driving a '63 Leslie 120 cabinet, although I prefer to let it's full range breathe a little better through the Z-Best 1x12", as the Leslie points the speaker right at the floor with the baffle part, so you lose a lot of high end clarity. My Champ II is better suited towards having it's sound aimed at the floor and spun around (separate treble and bass controls do come in handy when voicing amp for use with a Leslie, I've found). When plugged into the Z best 1x12", the Champ II sounds 500% better, but is immediately smoked by the Ghia. -Steve
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Post by cliff on Nov 3, 2005 23:01:11 GMT -7
Fireball - Just a little info. I've had my Ghia for quite a while...sometime last millenium, can't remember exactly which year. It only has a single 8 ohm output, hard-wired power cord, etc. I've had/have a number of other Z amps, and thus, I've spoken to Z a bunch of times on the phone. He told me that his favorite cabinet with the Ghia is a Z-Best cab (G12H and V30) wired to 4 ohms, using the 8-ohm output jack from the Ghia, a mismatch. He said it would not compromise the transformer in any way, and that he likes the way the Ghia breaks up a little earlier when it's connected to an 4-ohm cab. Thus, I'm sure you could run your 16-ohm cabs with the Ghia no problem...but why not re-wire the cab to 4-ohms, assuming it's a multi-speaker cab? By the way, I didn't like the G12H/V30 mix in my Z-Best...I've tried hard to like V30's in general, but can't seem to. It's all subjective. I liked the G12H/Greenback combo better, and I'm now trying the G12H/Blue....all of these wired 4-ohms.
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Post by G'OlPeachPhan on Nov 4, 2005 6:48:05 GMT -7
I agree with Z... I run my 8 ohm output tap (only one I've got) into the 4 ohm Z-Best... For my taste, this cab with a V30/H30 is absolutely perfect with the Ghia in every way.
I also like the Ghia (though not quite as well) through an open back cab with a Blue and H30, particularly the 55hz (014 cone) Scumback H30 clone.
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Post by billyguitar on Nov 4, 2005 6:50:26 GMT -7
Re: hollywood150 A tube amp won't lose much power from an impedance mismatch because of the output transformer. You're thinking of a solidstate amp. A tube amp will lose a little because it's just a bit more inefficient into a mismatch. It won't be a very significant loss.
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Post by jnixon45 on Nov 4, 2005 9:00:13 GMT -7
Some great info in this thread... but another question along the same lines...
Can you safely run two 8 Ohm cabs using both the 4 and 8 ohm output from the Ghia? I have two 1x12 cabs and I'm thinking it might be fun to run both at times.
Thanks.
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