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Post by asattwanger on May 23, 2008 11:08:21 GMT -7
Sorry, I don't understand amp lingo very well. Chimey, bell like, woody and now percussiveness or just percussive in general.
Can you please explain this percussive sound that the RxJr has. I was sent a PM about this and he didn't care for that side of it. I have heard others use it alot about the RX line, but I can't hear anything that I would call percussive in any of the sound clips. Surely nothing really stands out or shocks me in the MazJr/RxJr left right sound clips either.
Thanks Dave
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Post by drew on May 23, 2008 13:34:07 GMT -7
Hey Dave, I can't say that I truly understand all of the descriptions beyond loud-soft, bass and treble. Most of them I agree with but don't take them literally. The percussive one was interesting to me as well. The only example I can think of is the difference between using a 'tube screamer' type of pedal in front of the signal to the amp vs going straight in. When my is guitar straight into the amp the response is articulate, immediate and there's nothing to hide behind, every little nuance of your attack and string selection comes through beautifully, regardless of the amount of distortion (hair) on the note(s). When I put a TS type of pedal in front of the signal that immediate fresh articulate response tends to get homogenated. The homogenization is not a bad thing it's just another type of sound. It's all about preference. That immediate response is something that I notice in most high end amps, I hear a lot of folks describe it as; you can't hide any slopping playing as everything you play comes through. That's one of the characteristics I like about the Z amps. Hope this helps.
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Post by fastfrets (Bob) on May 23, 2008 14:15:51 GMT -7
All right, I'll give it a try. As I hear it, the leading edge of sound once you strike the strings is instantaneous and very punchy. There is nothing subtle about it and it doesn't really depend much upon volume,. As some others have said, it seems as though your fingers are connected to the speaker. Some others have described it as "presence," but I don't really like the term because it may connote "bright." I might agree that the sound is immediately "present."
Also, the percussion of the pick with the strings is palpable and this contributes to the impression of percussion. I think to some degree, the impression of percussiveness is affective in nature and comes from the experience of playing and having the amp respond in such an immediate and punchy way.
At any rate, this my impression. I am looking forward to others' responses.
Bob
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Post by 95strat on May 24, 2008 21:51:18 GMT -7
What Doc said in the lounge. None of us could have put it in planner words.
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Post by fastfrets (Bob) on May 25, 2008 9:48:53 GMT -7
What Doc said in the lounge. None of us could have put it in planner words. +1 as I said in the Lounge. Not to hijack the thread, but what kind of speaker are you running in the 1x12?
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Post by 95strat on May 30, 2008 20:46:10 GMT -7
I'm running a G12H in mine, but will have to try a Gold someday. I haven't heard a bad thing about it.
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Post by fastfrets (Bob) on May 30, 2008 22:55:33 GMT -7
I'm running a G12H in mine, but will have to try a Gold someday. I haven't heard a bad thing about it. G12H is my next speaker. I want to try two convertibles together: A Blue and G12H. Probably no as good a a Z-Beast but easier on the back and scalable for the size of venue.
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