Post by benttop (Steve) on Dec 16, 2007 11:51:16 GMT -7
Well everyone has a different interpretation of what SRV's tone was like. I've seen clips online where someone says "listen to this, I nailed SRV's tone" and then when I listen to the clip I think it sounds horrid and nothing like the tone I admire when I listen to SRV. But if you pay attention, you realize SRV had a while library of great tones, from pristine clean to very raunchy and everything in between. Further, a lot of what people hear as SRV tone comes from the fact that he's using gigantic strings tuned down a half step. Well, and he's a pretty good player....
All that said, yeah, I think some of his tones are in the GT. But it depends on what you're looking for as to whether you will hear it.
I did a clip a while back comparing the Mazerati GT to my SRZ-65, and it's about the only clip where I used the neck pup on my Strat and used the guitar's volume control to play clean and then crank up to get some dirt. I think these are similar tones to some of the SRV I've heard, but you may or may not agree. It's in the ears of the hearer!
Since this is a comparison clip, I have one amp on one side of the stereo pair, and the other amp on the other side. You get that effect a lot better with headphones. Here's the details:
Post by benttop (Steve) on Dec 16, 2007 12:15:31 GMT -7
Thanks for the quick and thorough response! I really appreciate the time and effort you took to help me with my decision making!
Thanks for the sound links -- really nice playing! I'll have to listen to both for a while to see which I really like better.
Thanks. Keep in mind this compares an amp that is in current production to an amp you can't get unless you find one used. Personally I'm pretty blown away by the Mazerati GT. I have a whole collection of clips on my gear page at www.gear.strayca.com/mazeratiGT.htm - many done with my Grosh Tele, a few with my Grosh Strat. The clip above was the last one I prepared, but there are a few others there that might interest you from the perspective of your question. Check it out.
Well said Benttop, ...... Tough to nail down the quintessential SRV tone thing. I agree there is "some" SRV in the GT, ... here and there, but as far as if someone was going to really try and dupe Stevies sound with only one amp, i dont think the GT would be my choice. Could ya get by with it and give a rockin rendition of an SRV tune? .... You bet, and in the right hands it would sound fantastic, ... but if you were wanting to do more of a tribute style authenticity of tone i always have to go back to a Blackface type amp with the 808/Ts-9 pedals. So much of his material leans toward the cleaner to dirt side of things IMO, so i would choose an amp that fits in that gain range just a little more easily than the GT. I actually found the Maz 38 to do a very respectable Stevie thing, with it's ability to sound Fendery and a little marshally at the same time. Maybe the best "ONE" amp option for SRV material?
Nova Remedy Mazerati GT MAZ 38sr Rt. 66 Max 18 Z 28 Airbrake Z-best 2-12 1-12 Conv
Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Dec 17, 2007 9:15:58 GMT -7
Thanks for all your help guys! I really appreciate it! I have a 64 Super Reverb for SRV sound but I'm looking to add a Z to my collection which is the reason for my request. I realize there is no one amp that will get all of his sounds (imagine what one like that would cost!)
Post by Phil (aka Phil) on Dec 17, 2007 17:54:24 GMT -7
As we've been saying, there's so many facets to SRV's tone. Considering that he used Super Reverbs, Marshalls, Dumbles, and more, all on at the same time, it's a good bet that Stevie could have gotten "his sound" out of anything. I've got bootlegs of him doing just that, through a wall of rented backline equipment when playing in foreign countries.
That being said, I'm an SRV nut and have put a lot of time and thought into his sound. It was more than just Super Reverbs, Vibroverbs, Dumbles, and a TS808. There were little details like 5751's in the V1 position, solid state rectifiers and the use of EV speakers since Stevie wanted power tube overdrive but little preamp distortion or speaker distortion. There was also the use of multiple amps for specific purposes, like Vibroverbs for breakup and Dumbles for clean power.
*That* being said, I can get (as Lou said) a rockin' Z sound that SRV might dig with a MAZ 38 NR and a MAZ 18 NR, played together, with the mids cut back, with the 38 set for clean and the 18 set for a little OD on really heavy pick strokes.
Or, for a really "Marshally" take on the SRV theme of a biting top end and clear bass, my Z 28 or Route 66 through a Z Best works too with the treble up and the bass backed off. One amp is all you need with that control layout
I don't own a Dr. Z, but I pushed My best Guitar buddy to buy a used Maz 38 that was selling locally after I jammed on it for a while. Some of the best tones out of a stock amp I've heard in a long time. Good amps.