|
Post by espennor on Jul 19, 2007 7:40:33 GMT -7
Why does the cut control knob on my MAZ 38sr work the opposite way than all my other amps. Turn counter clockwise to add cut, (darker) and clockwise to increase treble, (brigheter). It workes almost as a presence knob.
I've got the newest version MAZ, with cut, not the old version with presence.
|
|
|
Post by Lefty on Jul 19, 2007 8:41:28 GMT -7
It workes almost as a presence knob. Bingo.
|
|
|
Post by espennor on Jul 19, 2007 9:01:43 GMT -7
Yeah, but it's the newest version witn cut control..2005 mod.
The knobe are labled: Volume, Treble, Mid, Bass, Master Volume, Cut, Reverb
See "cut" not "presence"
|
|
|
Post by kruzty on Jul 19, 2007 9:18:28 GMT -7
A rose by any other name...
|
|
|
Post by Strato on Jul 19, 2007 9:29:37 GMT -7
Yeah, but it's the newest version witn cut control..2005 mod. The knobe are labled: Volume, Treble, Mid, Bass, Master Volume, Cut, Reverb See "cut" not "presence" Are you sure it is just the newest version? To my knowledge, every Dr. Z amp that has ever been made with a cut control functions in this very way.
|
|
|
Post by detuned on Jul 19, 2007 9:33:23 GMT -7
...would cut like a knife.
:-)
|
|
|
Post by espennor on Jul 19, 2007 9:58:45 GMT -7
www.nordlyd.no/bilder.htmHere's a pic. I just think it's strange to design a cut control this way... A "reverse" Cut potmeter??? does somthing like that ever exist?
|
|
|
Post by kruzty on Jul 19, 2007 10:13:59 GMT -7
The point is - that knob does what it does. It doesn't matter what the word underneath it says. The tone controls on the Maz don't act like tone controls on certain other amps, either.
As some people on here say, close your eyes and turn then knobs until you find a sound you like. If the word "cut" bothers you that much, just put some tape over it and write "presence" or "schmeckle" or whatever you want on it. ;D
|
|
|
Post by benttop (Steve) on Jul 19, 2007 14:33:23 GMT -7
www.nordlyd.no/bilder.htmHere's a pic. I just think it's strange to design a cut control this way... A "reverse" Cut potmeter??? does somthing like that ever exist? What do you think it should be cutting?
|
|
|
Post by remocity on Jul 19, 2007 17:21:56 GMT -7
Cheese?
|
|
|
Post by JASON (aka jgleaton) on Jul 19, 2007 19:57:54 GMT -7
Why does the cut control knob on my MAZ 38sr work the opposite way than all my other amps. Turn counter clockwise to add cut, (darker) and clockwise to increase treble, (brigheter). It workes almost as a presence knob. I've got the newest version MAZ, with cut, not the old version with presence. Well, I've never really thought of it quite that way. I've always thought of it like when you turn it up it boosts a certain higher frequency and allows it to CUT through more/ or increases CHIME as you turn it up... ...and CUT through less/ or warm it up by having less CHIME as you turn it down. To me it is way more useful than any presence control I've ever used, I guess because it also seems to effect the tone in such a useful way. The CUT control used in conjunction with the Treble control makes the Maz very versatile... I usually use the Treble around 11:00 but have the Cut anywhere from 9:30 to 1:00... The cut setting can really help you dial in the Tone you want depending on what pick-ups, speakers, different guitars etc, that your using... and with them being brighter or darker sounding you can effectively use the cut to help set/ dial in where you like your highs/ tone at. OR it can also be set depending on the volume of the amp ( more cut as the master is lowered to keep it feeling "alive" and give it some hair even at lower volumes) and maybe use less Cut when your cranking it cause it's getting some hair with the power tubes at that point... I DO tend to crank the CUT up a little more when the master is set lower... ** Edited to note that i'm NO expert and the manual shown below probably said it way better than I just did...
|
|
|
Post by fisholot on Jul 19, 2007 21:05:06 GMT -7
Why does the cut control knob on my MAZ 38sr work the opposite way than all my other amps. Turn counter clockwise to add cut, (darker) and clockwise to increase treble, (brigheter). It workes almost as a presence knob. I've got the newest version MAZ, with cut, not the old version with presence. This is from the manual Volume: Controls overall gain. Set over halfway for overdriven sounds. Set below halfway for cleaner sounds. Treble: Controls overall high frequency response. Middle: Controls overall mid frequency response. Bass: Controls overall low frequency response. Master: Controls overall amp volume and output tube compression. Cut: Controls overall tone/presence of amp. Turn clockwise for chime. Reverb: Turn clockwise to add reverb.
|
|
|
Post by nitehawk55 on Jul 24, 2007 19:29:26 GMT -7
From what you are describing it is working as it should . Darker as you go counter clockwise , brighter as you go clockwise . You will find you do not want to go much past the 9 o'clock position with Strat or single coil guitars or they will be to bright . With humbuckers you may want to add some "cut" by going clockwise because buckers are usually a bit darker .
|
|
|
Post by ruger9 on Jul 25, 2007 4:00:38 GMT -7
Does "cut" = "presecnce", and if so, doesn't "presence" work off of a NFB Loop? Do Z's even HAVE NFB Loops?
|
|
|
Post by edoetsch on Jul 25, 2007 9:53:46 GMT -7
I have heard that potentiometers may behave slightly different turning one way or another and that a better fine tuning of the control. I think the difference is whether the pot is linear or exponential.
So the pot may simply be wired "in reverse" because the Doc gets more fine tuning out of the control.
Some where this is the case:
Fulltone Soul Bender....tone works opposite the way most do...turn to the right to get a sound with more bass, less treble.
Z-Vex Octane....turn to the right to cut mids.
Z-vex Ooh Wah and Seek Trem... wah pots turn to the right to move from treble to bass.
|
|
|
Post by kruzty on Jul 25, 2007 10:10:28 GMT -7
Some where this is the case: Fulltone Soul Bender....tone works opposite the way most do...turn to the right to get a sound with more bass, less treble. Z-vex Ooh Wah and Seek Trem... wah pots turn to the right to move from treble to bass. Add the Ghia to this list...
|
|
|
Post by Stylemaster on Sept 11, 2007 15:42:34 GMT -7
I guess the fact that everything on a Z head front panel is backwards compared to a combo doesn't make any difference with the controls. Counter-clockwise is always counter-clockwise. I assume that the heads are backwards to save production costs - the combo chassis is just flipped over so that the tubes are on top for the head. Hey, I'm new here, it took me a while to notice...
|
|
|
Post by detuned on Sept 18, 2007 10:18:15 GMT -7
Wow. I hadn't noticed that, but then again, I've only owned a combo.
And I'm left-handed.
And odd.
:-)
|
|