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Post by terlinguart on Oct 29, 2006 14:55:15 GMT -7
I have an 80's Fender Concert 60 watt amp with the 1 12" speaker. It is my understanding these were designed by Paul Rivera and are suppose to be pretty good amps. I am on a really tight budget and not able to get a Z yet so I want to make the most out of what I have for now. Is anybody familiar with the Torres Engineering Mod for this amp? I have heard good and bad things. Will it hurt the value of the amp later. What does it do for it. Is it hard to install for the average guy to do?
I also want to get an extension speaker box for it and thinking about a 4x10 as it was also available in that new. Later I want to get a Dr Z head to go with whatever box I get now. Any opinions...4x10...2x12.... etc. Any help will be appreciated as I am really not that knowlegable in all this. Thanks, Tom
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Post by billyguitar on Oct 30, 2006 8:11:25 GMT -7
Those are pretty good amps although not real toneful. Better than the new Fender stuff if that's any help. You really can't go wrong if you get one for a decent price. The Super Champ and Super with 4x10s are especially desireable. Torres is a guy with a funny reputation. I'd say instead of modding the amp just make your cahnges with pedals.
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Post by texasjim on Nov 8, 2006 8:14:38 GMT -7
I practice thru a Concert 2-10 every week. It's a very good amp, but like the other guy said, dress it up with pedals.
My buddy's amp was making the "Thunderstorm" noise after it warmed up , and he chased that for months, and finally resoldered four joints, and it healed up prefectly! Now, it's a pleasure to play thru.
They seem to go for $400 and up, and are a bargain at that!
Texas Jim
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Post by detuned on Nov 9, 2006 16:55:39 GMT -7
Before I sprung for a Torres mod, I'd Google the man & see what others think of him. While I have no personal experience with the man, I do know that he generates a strong reaction...
But check it out for yourself, an informed consumer... :-)
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Post by sudsysul on Jan 12, 2007 14:18:57 GMT -7
I have a Princeton II from that era, so that makes me an expert on this. It's a nice little grab and go amp that is permanantly at my drummer's house for practices. The lead side just doesn't work for me, but I can get some good sounds with the clean side and a Real Tube by Tube Works. My free advice would be to save your money on the Torres mod and go with pedals to get your sound. If you can't quite get there with the amp, you haven't lost anything because you can sell the pedals and the unaltered amp on fleabay for the most money in unmodded form and get something else. I've seen those Concert II's go for $550. Flip it and get something that's more to your liking.
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Post by billyguitar on Jan 12, 2007 15:09:06 GMT -7
I'm not a fan of mods having gone down that route in the 90s already. I always end up wanting the amp back where it was. there are a few exceptions though. I think your amp is good enough now that pedals will get you where you want to go easier and they are much easier changed or reversed than a circuitry mod.
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Post by JebusCrebus on Jan 12, 2007 16:28:06 GMT -7
Terlinguart,
Resale of an amp is a funny question, just look at the trends in both vintage guitar and amp sales. How many times have we seen the greatest deal ever on such and such an amp only to read further on that they modded it this way or that. Personally if that is in the description I'm no longer interested period (sorry!).
I agree that some of these mods are improvements on some amps, but you never really know what kind of work was done by who, or if the mod was just just trying to cover up another problem or what. Sometimes guys are simply trying to flip an amp for more coin by stating it's been Black-faced (in the case of Fenders of course) or some other nonsense.
Bottom line IMO an original untouched amp, from any era, is worth more than a modded circuit any day.
My 2 cents again ...
[glow=limegreen,2,300]-J-[/glow]
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