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Post by tookermel on Jan 5, 2008 17:35:54 GMT -7
First off, I'm new and very excited to be here. I don't own a Z yet, but am in the process of saving up for one. I am trying to figure out which 2X12 combo Z has the most Marshall flair, as well as some good overdrive. I know, that's VERY general, but, I'm just hopin' to get it narrowed down. Thanks a lot!
-Tookermel <><
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jan 5, 2008 18:17:55 GMT -7
How much power do you think you need? Humbuckers or single coils?
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Post by tookermel on Jan 5, 2008 18:26:46 GMT -7
Even mid-powered (circa 30) is fine....I've got pedals for low-volume drive. I play a '52RI Tele with a Stuart Blackguard in the bridge, and a Harmonic Design Chromotone in the neck, as well as a Mexi-Strat with Lollars and Fralins. Thanks, man...
-Tookermel <><
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jan 5, 2008 18:55:15 GMT -7
Even mid-powered (circa 30) is fine....I've got pedals for low-volume drive. I play a '52RI Tele with a Stuart Blackguard in the bridge, and a Harmonic Design Chromotone in the neck, as well as a Mexi-Strat with Lollars and Fralins. Thanks, man... -Tookermel <>< Well if you look closely at the Doc's web page, you begin to see there are only a few choices when it comes to 2x12 combos: Maz 38 Senior Prescription ES Stang Ray That's it. Not a whole long list to choose from. I've seen 2x12's in several other amps as well, but they aren't listed as currently available. So lets talk about these three. First let's eliminate the Stang Ray right up front. It is a Vox AC30/4 clone and one of the cleanest amps on the planet. It's a great amp, but it doesn't fit your description, unless you want to use pedals to get to the OD stuff (If you are, you can't go wrong with this amp!). The Maz 38 Senior can certainly get to some higher gain tones, but how much it sounds like a Marshall will depend on your instrument and pedals I think. This is a very versatile amp, and can sound like a lot of different things. The RXES is the most powerful of the three, at 45 watts, and has no master volume, so you would want an Airbrake with it. I think it comes the closest to real Marshall tones, but it's also very versatile in that you can get beautiful cleans from it by keeping the volume control below noon, or rolling your guitar volume back. All three of these amps are world class, but they are all very different from each other. You should take the opportunity of playing through them before you make a decision. If you read in each amp's section here, you'll see why: folks that have each of these are head over heels in love with them. Hope that gets you started and welcome to the Z-Talk forum.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jan 5, 2008 19:10:11 GMT -7
Whoops, missed one: The Maz 18 Junior. Same comments as the Maz 38, except it's 18 watts instead of 38.
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Post by tookermel on Jan 5, 2008 22:04:25 GMT -7
Thank you very much for the warm welcome, as well as the informative response! That helps tremendously.....
-Tookermel
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Post by real oldster on Jan 6, 2008 3:52:42 GMT -7
If you're willing to consider a head and 2x12 cab I believe you would have more, better options. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Post by John on Jan 6, 2008 8:55:14 GMT -7
If you're looking for Marshall tone, the SRZ-65 is the best plexi tone, but it's not being made anymore. You'd have to cruise Ebay to find one, and they don't come around that often.
Also the 6545 is a dual channel amp, with one side being the SRZ-65 above. But they don't make that one anymore either. And this comes in a head only too.
Then there's the Route 66. It's an older Marshall style. Awesome amp. (not that the others are not) This is still being made, but it's a head only too.
Can you tell us about what you're going to be playing? What volume?
But if you MUST have a 2x12 combo, the Maz Sr or Jr, with some eq tweeking and a dirt pedal or two will get you in the ballpark.
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Post by tookermel on Jan 6, 2008 20:40:41 GMT -7
I've decided to go with a Maz JR., since I found a good deal on one online. The guy is sending it speaker-less, and I think I'm gonna go with some Weber ceramic Silver Bells. I guess this, along with my COT50, will be about as Marshall as it'll get, huh?
-Tookermel
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Post by dixiechicken on Jan 7, 2008 7:58:46 GMT -7
Although it IS NOT a combo - the Route66 is considered to be the "Holy Grail" of Marshall tone here abouts's. ;D ( yes I have one and it's a great rock n' roll blues amp )
Cheers: Dixiechicken!
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Post by detuned on Jan 7, 2008 9:13:17 GMT -7
I guess this, along with my COT50, will be about as Marshall as it'll get, huh? Well, sorta. It'll always sound like a Maz, which is neither Marshall nor Vox, nor Fender. But believe me, that's a good thing! You'll get "close enough" I'll bet. Sometimes even a great amp can disappoint if you're expecting something different. If you *have* to have a Marshall, get a Marshall is my advice. But I think you'll be pretty pleased with the Maz. While you're at it, stop by the Maz Jr section & say hi! And... Welcome aboard! :-)
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Post by dnoseworth on Feb 26, 2008 3:24:16 GMT -7
Thanks guys , just reading the posts in this thread just gave me a bad case of gas.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Feb 26, 2008 9:01:05 GMT -7
Thanks guys , just reading the posts in this thread just gave me a bad case of gas. You're not the only one. I have six Z amps here, and every time DC talks about his Rt 66 I want to go buy one.
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Post by jetiii on Feb 27, 2008 3:22:16 GMT -7
I just bought a Maz Jr. Combo and wish to put it on top of a 8 olm 4x12 Marshall 1/2 stack. When looking on the back there is only one free speaker output which says 4 Olms. I was not absolutely sure that I could plug into it and the manual wasn't helpful, so being a little unsure about it I unplugged the onboard speaker and went into the 8 olm. My question is, when using two 8 olm speakers (combo's speaker and extension cab) would it be ok and are they reduced to 4 olms when used together?
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Feb 27, 2008 6:43:22 GMT -7
I just bought a Maz Jr. Combo and wish to put it on top of a 8 olm 4x12 Marshall 1/2 stack. When looking on the back there is only one free speaker output which says 4 Olms. I was not absolutely sure that I could plug into it and the manual wasn't helpful, so being a little unsure about it I unplugged the onboard speaker and went into the 8 olm. My question is, when using two 8 olm speakers (combo's speaker and extension cab) would it be ok and are they reduced to 4 olms when used together? If your onboard speaker is 8 ohms, and the cab is 8 ohms, you can either use a Y cable to connect them together and use the 4 ohm jack, or if the cab has a second jack you can daisy chain everything together by going into the cab first, then run your onboard speaker from the second jack. Still 4 ohms. Don't ever use more than one jack on the back of the amp though - that's not how it's designed.
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Post by Shannon on Feb 27, 2008 7:57:42 GMT -7
Todd (pcns here on the board) builds a very nice Y cable. Shoot him a pm. He treats Z brothers very well.
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Post by dixiechicken on Feb 27, 2008 8:40:38 GMT -7
Now you're talking "benttop". ;D I feel very strongly deep down in my soulsearching ways - you really need a Route66. Isn't seven a kind of holy number btw - it's prime number at least. Cheers: Dixiechicken!
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Feb 27, 2008 9:16:33 GMT -7
Now you're talking "benttop". ;D I feel very strongly deep down in my soulsearching ways - you really need a Route66. Isn't seven a kind of holy number btw - it's prime number at least. Cheers: Dixiechicken! A prime! Well there it is! Us engineering types MUST OBEY the laws of the prime!
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Post by dixiechicken on Feb 27, 2008 10:35:17 GMT -7
Yes yes indeed - truer words were seldom spoken. ;D
Cheers: Dixiechicken!
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