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Post by Laroosco!! on Jun 20, 2005 9:49:00 GMT -7
Sounds like you need a 5 watt amp of some kind.
20 watters aren't exactly quiet. Anyone who thinks a Tweed Deluxe is quiet is nuts IMO
I think the Ghia sounds great at low volumes though.
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Post by dzghia on Jun 20, 2005 10:27:49 GMT -7
Its loud because its class A!!
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Post by kaseri on Jun 20, 2005 12:28:37 GMT -7
Don't you mean class "Z"
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Post by Bill on Jun 20, 2005 13:37:51 GMT -7
A Ghia is not a bedroom amp per se, although it works fine in my bedroom . If you want to get the "legendary distortion" you'll have to get the V knob over to 2/3 o'clock, which is loud. Like Laroosco said you need a 5 or 10 watt amp, or better yet an Airbrake.
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Post by guitarhero on Jun 21, 2005 9:17:34 GMT -7
The Ghia is not loud compared to other Z amps. Put it next to a Z-28 and you can hear how subtle the Ghia is. The tonal characteristics of each Z amp is different. Strawberry, Vanilla, and Chocolate ya know.
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Post by ajlove on Jun 22, 2005 22:13:14 GMT -7
The Ghia is freakin' LOUD.... it kinda blows my mind how loud alot of bands are... (of course I'm playing blues not hard rock, but still...) I'll be using an Airbrake with the Ghia at most clubs/venues... worth it to get that killer overdrive sound
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Post by Lefty on Jun 23, 2005 9:08:39 GMT -7
That's kinda been my goal is to get "the tones" at a lower volume so folks don't have to yell in each others ear while we are playing. Hell every once in a while a buddy and I will go to a local hole on Thursdays and unfortunately its Karoke night...the music (LOL) is so loud we have to sit next to each other and yell so we can hear ourselves! It's just plain nuts.
There has been plenty of nights where my Deluxe Reverb hasn't got past 3-4 un-miked. I'm all about the low wattage!!
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Post by JoeYello on Jun 23, 2005 12:43:50 GMT -7
It's unfortunate but the volume level we get to play at seems to be dependant on the guy behind the drums. I have found that with a heavy hitter I am cranking my Ghia and have little or no clean headroom. With a softer drummer the Ghia would be loud enough.
The solution: SR-16 (Drummers hate when you mention the SR-16!)
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Post by myles on Jun 23, 2005 13:52:48 GMT -7
Get a 1x12 cab and a Jensen P12R speaker in it. Those speakers are down about 7db from a Celestion and may drop the level as to where you can find it easier to take level wise.
On the flip side .... stay away from V30, H30, or Blue. Those are 100dB output with one watt, so they will be really LOUD at a given setting.
A P12R is:
Electrical Characteristics Nominal Impedance 8/16 Ù Rated Power 25 W Musical Power 50 W Sensitivity@1W, 1m 93.6 dB
So this is like cutting the amp's power in half (from 100dB with a Celestion as an example) down to 97dB, and then 1/2 one more time to about 94dB. Sort of like dropping the wattage from 20 or so watts to 10 and then down to 5.
A Dr Z Air Brake may be cheaper and easier than a new speaker and cab though.
On the other hand, for LOTS of clean headroom out of the amp plug into a 2x12 open back with one of the Celestions mentioned above and change the phase inverter to a 12BH7.
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Post by kaseri on Jun 26, 2005 7:37:52 GMT -7
What do you call a guy who plays with musicians?....
A drummer (insert rimshot here)
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