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Post by ruger9 on Oct 23, 2006 8:11:09 GMT -7
I was just thinking of the MazJr, and was wondering if the Reverb version has an extra gain stage? The Princeton Reverb has an extra gain stage (due to the signal loss from the verb) that actually ADDS to the GAIN of the amp, and it breaks up earlier than the no-reverb Princeton (which does not have the extra gain stage). Are the NR & R versions of the MazJr like this? Or is the breakup point & amount the same/different on the 2 versions?
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Post by John on Oct 23, 2006 9:22:25 GMT -7
To the best of my knowledge, the reverb version does not have an extra gain stage. The extra tubes are for the reverb send and receive.
The word is the non reverb actually has a bit more gain.
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Post by kledbet on Oct 23, 2006 9:30:41 GMT -7
I own both amps, and gtrman3 is right. The extra tube is for the reverb. The NR is actually a little louder than the Reverb version.
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Post by ruger9 on Oct 23, 2006 9:45:30 GMT -7
OK, so the Reverb version does have the extra tube (to drive the reverb), but the NR actually has a bit more gain/breaks up a bit earlier? When you say it's a little louder, are you talking just sheer volume, or more headroom?
Thanks guys.
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Post by cheycaster on Oct 23, 2006 11:38:50 GMT -7
I own both as well and as far as I can tell, the NR just has more oooomph to it and is more stouter of the two. To me they both can be loud as you need for their 18 watt rating. I still get ask to turn down 80% of the time and I'm usually at Church only have the master up to 1-2.3. I think mainly because I lean more on the distorted hot rodded tones and use my geeters volume knob for the clean(er) stuff. Cheycaster
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Post by ruger9 on Oct 23, 2006 11:48:09 GMT -7
I still get ask to turn down 80% of the time and I'm usually at Church only have the master up to 1-2.3. I think mainly because I lean more on the distorted hot rodded tones and use my geeters volume knob for the clean(er) stuff. Cheycaster This is exactly what I like to do, and most of my playing is currently at home, which is why I was asking about onset of breakup. The sooner the better. I rarely play with a dead clean tone- it's always got some hair on it. Sounds like the NR might get me to breakup a hair faster, not that it's a big deal, but i was hoping to maybe be able to open the master up a little more. Either way, for home playing I'll probably end up attenuating. For this same reason (early onset of breakup so I can attenuate as little as possible) I've also been looking at the Ghia. And RxES "Jr" would also fit the bill! (Actually, if the Doc made one, I'd probably go ahead & place an order.)
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Post by nitehawk55 on Oct 24, 2006 19:04:51 GMT -7
I still get ask to turn down 80% of the time and I'm usually at Church only have the master up to 1-2.3. I think mainly because I lean more on the distorted hot rodded tones and use my geeters volume knob for the clean(er) stuff. Cheycaster This is exactly what I like to do, and most of my playing is currently at home, which is why I was asking about onset of breakup. The sooner the better. I rarely play with a dead clean tone- it's always got some hair on it. Sounds like the NR might get me to breakup a hair faster, not that it's a big deal, but i was hoping to maybe be able to open the master up a little more. Either way, for home playing I'll probably end up attenuating. For this same reason (early onset of breakup so I can attenuate as little as possible) I've also been looking at the Ghia. And RxES "Jr" would also fit the bill! (Actually, if the Doc made one, I'd probably go ahead & place an order.) You can change the level you will get breakup at by changing to a different value the output tube is rated at . Most come with a stock #6 GT EL84 but you could put #3 or 4 GT's in it for breakup at lower volumes or more as you crank it .
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Post by kledbet on Oct 24, 2006 23:23:41 GMT -7
nitehawk55 is right about getting the tubes at a rating of #4. The other thing to do is to have the volume control maxed out, and the master volume turned up to the best level for the room. I have found for me that with the volume maxed you can use your guitars volume knob to control the degree of breakup.
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Post by cheycaster on Oct 25, 2006 3:28:29 GMT -7
Cool, I'm gonna have to try some of them #4's in the tranny section.
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