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Post by colinfromportland on Apr 23, 2024 17:54:42 GMT -7
Hi forum,
I know there are a lot of 'best Ghia speaker' discussion on here, and I *have* read a bunch of them.
But -- I beg your indulgence to start one more thread, to focus on pretty cleans.
99.9999% of speaker demos on youtube consist of people shredding with the amp pushed into overdrive. I don't try to shred anymore. I'm old, and I like to play jazzy chords with the amp set clean, and let them sustain for as long as possible, while my dog looks at me with bored eyes.
Back when I was a young gigging guitarist I never got into speakers for some reason... too busy swapping guitars I guess. So the whole subject of speaker comparison is pretty new to me.
I am a couple weeks into Ghia ownership and so far I have tried a 10" Greenback and a 12" Eminence Legend (all it says on the back is "made for Victoria", no model number). It's been eye-opening to go back and forth. The Legend seems very full-spectrum. I roll off some volume on my strat to tame the highs, and it sounds really good. The Greenback is *very* full, much meatier than I expected. If I leave the volume and tone wide open, the finger squeaks and attack noise are a bit too much. If I roll things down a bit, they get manageable but some of the nice sweet high end goes away too.
Not sure if this possible, physically, but to my ears it seems like the Legend delivers a bit more in the sustain phase.
If the internet didn't exist I would just use the Legend and life would be perfectly splendid. But since I know there is a wealth of knowledge on this forum I can't help but ask :-)
Any recommendations for Ghia speakers in the pretty cleans dept? (any size)
Thanks!
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Post by tumeniamps (Tom) on Apr 23, 2024 18:16:20 GMT -7
Celestion 10 inch Alnico Gold. Great all around speaker in a Ghia, and beautiful cleans. Overdrives wonderfully as well
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Post by scottyc13 on Apr 23, 2024 18:33:37 GMT -7
I think the Celestion Vintage 30 has lovely cleans with my Ghia. I run the volume around 10 for edge of breakup. I can dial back the volume on my Strats and Tele to get a great clean sound. My Gretsch has a bigger punch, but dialing back the master on it cleans up.
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Post by colinfromportland on Apr 23, 2024 18:53:37 GMT -7
I know there is a lot of love for the Gold on this forum...
And, to be fair, this is a non-shredding demo on youtube --
-- though it's in a Super Champ, and the sound quality is not so hifi... it's hard to hear what the highs are doing.
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Post by nick0 on Apr 23, 2024 20:23:48 GMT -7
I run a 10" drZ speaker with a 10" Celestion Alnico Gold in my combo. Sounds nice to me. Z speaker is full low end. Gold has some chime.
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Post by simpleton on Apr 23, 2024 23:16:39 GMT -7
The Eminence Legend 1258 (perhaps what the Victoria speaker is close too) as well as a pair of the 1058 have been some of my all time favorite speakers. The pair of 1058 were what I ran with my Ghia, but I currently have the 12” version with a different amp….but still love the speaker. Consider WGS speakers for a substitute of the Celestion suggestions…..I liked their Reaper ( a G12H30 copy w/ less shrillness) and in their American style the G12c/s (perhaps in the Legend wheel house)
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Post by John on Apr 24, 2024 5:00:45 GMT -7
10" Celestion Gold....and your search will be over. (that is, if your combo is a 10)
And don't be afraid to use the tone control on the strat. In some circumstances, the Ghia can be a bit bright. But there's no treble or presence knobs to control the crispy high end. Just roll back the tone knob on the guitar.
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Post by wally on Apr 24, 2024 10:39:56 GMT -7
I have a pair of Weber 10f150Ts with light doping in my Shorty 2x10 cab…beautiful cleans….articulate, harmonically rich. Drawback….they are loud!!!! Yeah, my 2013 Carmen Ghia head needs to go back to Ohio for a MV and/or I need a good attenuator.
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Post by harold on Apr 24, 2024 17:15:44 GMT -7
I have a 2-10 model. What are the thoughts on the Warehouse Retro 10. 60 watt?
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Post by runninwiththerevil (Matthew) on Apr 24, 2024 20:55:01 GMT -7
I know a lot of people are fans of a 10” Red Fang. It is efficient and more watts than you need. Lots of head room.
Will it give you a sweet top end with your cleans? If I just read various forums I would say yes. But my personal experience with the RF in a Ghia 110 was not something I liked. It was too loud and let too much of the hifi-ness of the amp through. The Ghia is great for how it really puts out what you’re giving it. But I felt with the RF it was too unforgiving.
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Post by John on Apr 25, 2024 4:37:50 GMT -7
I know a lot of people are fans of a 10” Red Fang. It is efficient and more watts than you need. Lots of head room. Will it give you a sweet top end with your cleans? If I just read various forums I would say yes. But my personal experience with the RF in a Ghia 110 was not something I liked. It was too loud and let too much of the hifi-ness of the amp through. The Ghia is great for how it really puts out what you’re giving it. But I felt with the RF it was too unforgiving.
My 1x10 ghia combo came with the Red Fang. I couldn't get it out of the cabinet fast enough. It was not for me. To my ears it had a lower midrange bump that was unpleasant. I know others have said they like it with the ghia, but I didn't. I would not classify the RF as a 'sweet top end' speaker. Yes, it was efficient and therefore LOUD. That could be a plus or minus depending on someone's volume needs.
I was playing a tele in a modern country band at the time, and I needed a tone that got me in that genre. I played the RF for about an hour at stage volume....and I felt something was off. I tried adjusting the tone control on the amp...and it made no difference. That tone in my head was not there. I took a chance on the 10" gold, put it in and played for three seconds...THREE seconds and stopped. YEAH! THAT'S the tone I've been looking for.
10" Gold with the Ghia.
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Post by pcns on Apr 25, 2024 5:52:13 GMT -7
I run a 10" drZ speaker with a 10" Celestion Alnico Gold in my combo. Sounds nice to me. Z speaker is full low end. Gold has some chime. The Dr Z 10 is hard to beat. Its a powerful speaker with lots of head room. My overall favorite is the 10" Greenback but if if you solely focused on cleans the Z 10 is worth checking out. Not sure where you can buy then though. I have 2 of them and they are not for sale! ha ha
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