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Post by Stefanos on Mar 20, 2022 3:16:27 GMT -7
Hi guys, new to the forum but not new to Z amps, I've had a maz18 for 10 years and just went with an Antidote to get me a bigger sound due to the KT66's. Not using it as cranked jtm45 style amp but as a clean platform and I thing its the best one I've tried for this! (even better than the maz18 and its not an easy thing to surpass that amps ability as a platform!) Tell me your thoughts about it.
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Post by adam on Mar 20, 2022 8:27:40 GMT -7
Welcome! Fantastic playing and tones. Love the big verb and delay, and the drive pedal sounds great there too! "I'll have what he's having".
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Post by Stefanos on Mar 20, 2022 13:10:05 GMT -7
Thank you, yeah im a verb addict can't help it
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Post by nick0 on Mar 20, 2022 14:39:59 GMT -7
Sounds great!
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Mar 20, 2022 15:41:52 GMT -7
Welcome on board! Great touch and dynamics, I really like your style. And the tone is ALL there.
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Mar 20, 2022 15:42:05 GMT -7
Welcome on board! Great touch and dynamics, I really like your style. And the tone is ALL there.
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Post by KeithA on Mar 20, 2022 16:23:50 GMT -7
Sounds fantastic!
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Post by Russell B on Mar 20, 2022 18:11:31 GMT -7
Very nice!
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Post by j4gitr (John) on Mar 20, 2022 18:23:52 GMT -7
Sounds great. I loved my Antidote while I had it. One of Doc’s great designs.
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Post by "Z" Steve on Mar 20, 2022 20:20:42 GMT -7
This demo might make the Antidote have a comeback! Excellent playing, tone, touch, but I think that clean tone comes from the finish on your guitar! Welcome to the forum!
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Post by Stefanos on Mar 21, 2022 2:38:02 GMT -7
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Post by Stefanos on Mar 21, 2022 2:39:21 GMT -7
This demo might make the Antidote have a comeback! Excellent playing, tone, touch, but I think that clean tone comes from the finish on your guitar! Welcome to the forum! I really hope so!! yeah the finish plays a big role on this tone Thank you!!
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Post by Stefanos on Mar 21, 2022 2:40:21 GMT -7
Sounds great. I loved my Antidote while I had it. One of Doc’s great designs. Thank you! I agree this amp should come back!
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Post by Stefanos on Mar 21, 2022 2:41:17 GMT -7
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Post by Stefanos on Mar 21, 2022 2:42:04 GMT -7
Welcome on board! Great touch and dynamics, I really like your style. And the tone is ALL there. Thank you Dave!!
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Post by spencer096 on Mar 21, 2022 3:54:20 GMT -7
Awesome playing. What’d you use to record?
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Post by adam on Mar 21, 2022 14:29:21 GMT -7
I just want the reverb and delay settings.
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Post by Stefanos on Mar 21, 2022 15:05:45 GMT -7
Awesome playing. What’d you use to record? Thank you! The cab is an Egnater 1x12 with a greenback speaker with a Shure SM57 to capture it, nothing fancy, the amp sounds so good that you don't need a lot of processing to make it work.
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Post by Stefanos on Mar 21, 2022 15:08:32 GMT -7
I just want the reverb and delay settings. Reverb was Logics native plugin and the delay was a free to download plugin called Valhalla Supermassive.
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Post by adam on Mar 21, 2022 16:01:40 GMT -7
I just want the reverb and delay settings. Reverb was Logics native plugin and the delay was a free to download plugin called Valhalla Supermassive. I need screen shots! Just kidding, but really wanted to point out that it's a fantastic sound and you did a great job with it, and of course the playing and ear are kind of everything. I have an Antidote too and just love it. Those clean sounds are just remarkable, and it has headroom for days. Also have a Remedy which also does crazy good clean sounds, but they are little different, though sort of still in the same territory. Remedy kind of a little more midrange focus where the Antidote sort of has more lows and highs on tap. Love that vintage/modern switch on the Antidote too. Also have an EMS which also does fantastic clean sounds, but maybe the difference there is there's a little more hair in it somehow. All very different, yet similar at the same time. If I just had one of those, that would be all I could ask for or need, so there's that too. I think I'd say for me the Antidote and Remedy work equally well with single coil or humbuckers, and maybe the EMS sort of prefers single coils to my ears on that super clean thing. I guess that's my take on the Z Marshal(ish) camp. Having said all that regarding clean tones, the other Z's do some pretty special stuff too that is farther removed from that Marshall type thing. The Ghia, particularly at "quiet" volumes with a V30 has a wonderful clean with humbuckers that always drags me in somehow and I end up playing for hours on that amp. There's something there to me that has some give of a more powerful amp set kind of loud, but it's at a really reasonable volume. The one that really stuns me is the MAZ38 with a strat and greenbacks pushing some volume. That's really stunning and magic, but comes at a little price with it's a little loud. Not too loud for a band, but kind of loud if you are just sitting around playing. There's magic in all these Z's. I'm very fortunate to get to experience all these tones, but for the person who maybe has one, it kind of doesn't matter, they all sound fantastic and I'd be able to be happy and make any of them work to make a guitar sound great. Anyway love your vid and I skimmed through some of your other vides and they all sound great. Appreciate what you do.
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Post by Stefanos on Mar 22, 2022 0:25:28 GMT -7
Reverb was Logics native plugin and the delay was a free to download plugin called Valhalla Supermassive. I need screen shots! Just kidding, but really wanted to point out that it's a fantastic sound and you did a great job with it, and of course the playing and ear are kind of everything. I have an Antidote too and just love it. Those clean sounds are just remarkable, and it has headroom for days. Also have a Remedy which also does crazy good clean sounds, but they are little different, though sort of still in the same territory. Remedy kind of a little more midrange focus where the Antidote sort of has more lows and highs on tap. Love that vintage/modern switch on the Antidote too. Also have an EMS which also does fantastic clean sounds, but maybe the difference there is there's a little more hair in it somehow. All very different, yet similar at the same time. If I just had one of those, that would be all I could ask for or need, so there's that too. I think I'd say for me the Antidote and Remedy work equally well with single coil or humbuckers, and maybe the EMS sort of prefers single coils to my ears on that super clean thing. I guess that's my take on the Z Marshal(ish) camp. Having said all that regarding clean tones, the other Z's do some pretty special stuff too that is farther removed from that Marshall type thing. The Ghia, particularly at "quiet" volumes with a V30 has a wonderful clean with humbuckers that always drags me in somehow and I end up playing for hours on that amp. There's something there to me that has some give of a more powerful amp set kind of loud, but it's at a really reasonable volume. The one that really stuns me is the MAZ38 with a strat and greenbacks pushing some volume. That's really stunning and magic, but comes at a little price with it's a little loud. Not too loud for a band, but kind of loud if you are just sitting around playing. There's magic in all these Z's. I'm very fortunate to get to experience all these tones, but for the person who maybe has one, it kind of doesn't matter, they all sound fantastic and I'd be able to be happy and make any of them work to make a guitar sound great. Anyway love your vid and I skimmed through some of your other vides and they all sound great. Appreciate what you do. Thank you so much Adam! Yeah all of the Z amps I've played had something in common like a signature on their sound, it's more like a feel thing and it's addictive. I've had a Maz18 for a decade and during all this time I never got bored of it, it's so versatile and so friendly to pedals that with a new 100$ pedal you think you've bought a new amp! One of the amps I'd like to have someday in the future is a Carmen Ghia, I've tried one years ago and left a impression on me with it's swirly harmonically rich vibe!
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Post by adam on Mar 22, 2022 5:10:49 GMT -7
One of the amps I'd like to have someday in the future is a Carmen Ghia, I've tried one years ago and left a impression on me with it's swirly harmonically rich vibe! For me, I played through one and thought it was great, but had no idea what it was. From there, I've bought them all without having tried them and they've all been keepers. Ghia compared to Antidote, you can play the Antidote quietly and sound great, but if you are playing lightly and then hit it hard, that volume jump is pretty enormous. The Ghia is more friendly in that way, like it already has some of the cranked amp compression going on at a pretty low volume. Maybe another difference is the Antidote has so many ways to control the tone with the 2 volumes, presence, vintage/modern, etc. (you know). You can fuss with those controls all day for different sounds. Ghia is more like plug in, move the tone control, then there's not much more you can do so you just play. You might start out saying, hmm, I wish I could add more bass or more sizzle, but after you just play for a little while, you aren't wishing to change anything. It's interesting to me how that works.
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Post by nick0 on Mar 22, 2022 5:48:48 GMT -7
You might start out saying, hmm, I wish I could add more bass or more sizzle, but after you just play for a little while, you aren't wishing to change anything. It's interesting to me how that works. It's interesting how that works. Sometimes it takes spending a bit of time with a tone to get along with it. Like your ears have to acclimate somehow. You have to almost learn how to play for the amp's tone as opposed to forcing the tone to try and do what you think it should.
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Post by Stefanos on Mar 22, 2022 8:01:54 GMT -7
One of the amps I'd like to have someday in the future is a Carmen Ghia, I've tried one years ago and left a impression on me with it's swirly harmonically rich vibe! "For me, I played through one and thought it was great, but had no idea what it was. From there, I've bought them all without having tried them and they've all been keepers. Ghia compared to Antidote, you can play the Antidote quietly and sound great, but if you are playing lightly and then hit it hard, that volume jump is pretty enormous. The Ghia is more friendly in that way, like it already has some of the cranked amp compression going on at a pretty low volume. Maybe another difference is the Antidote has so many ways to control the tone with the 2 volumes, presence, vintage/modern, etc. (you know). You can fuss with those controls all day for different sounds. Ghia is more like plug in, move the tone control, then there's not much more you can do so you just play. You might start out saying, hmm, I wish I could add more bass or more sizzle, but after you just play for a little while, you aren't wishing to change anything. It's interesting to me how that works." Yeah the Antidote is so versatile tonaly with all the tone controls plus 2 channels with different voicings plus presence and I always thought it was crucial to me to find my tone although lately I could live with an amp with just a tone control or just a volume and a cut pot and shape the frequency with an eq. As long as the amp has the touch response im looking for and a rich harmonic content I think I will find a way to shape it tonaly. The good thing is that the Antidote needs no external intervention to sound good and has an amazing feel under the fingers too!
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Post by Stefanos on Mar 22, 2022 8:08:08 GMT -7
You might start out saying, hmm, I wish I could add more bass or more sizzle, but after you just play for a little while, you aren't wishing to change anything. It's interesting to me how that works. It's interesting how that works. Sometimes it takes spending a bit of time with a tone to get along with it. Like your ears have to acclimate somehow. You have to almost learn how to play for the amp's tone as opposed to forcing the tone to try and do what you think it should. I think this happens to everyone. You play with a cab for 30 min and it sounds ok then you change cab for 30 min and then you come back to the first one to find out it now sounds like ****
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Post by adam on Mar 22, 2022 16:55:14 GMT -7
It's interesting how that works. Sometimes it takes spending a bit of time with a tone to get along with it. Like your ears have to acclimate somehow. You have to almost learn how to play for the amp's tone as opposed to forcing the tone to try and do what you think it should. Exactly! I have the same kind of problem with Les Pauls in that I can seem to play them in tune for a while until I get used to it.
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