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Post by madhermit on Jan 9, 2022 13:10:33 GMT -7
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Post by purpletele on Jan 9, 2022 18:12:02 GMT -7
I haven't heard of anyone here trying the Hot Mod
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Post by nmz on Jan 9, 2022 18:46:39 GMT -7
I haven’t and won’t. The EMS is exactly like I want it straight from the factory. Just use a pedal.
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Post by adam on Jan 10, 2022 5:49:07 GMT -7
I had one of the original hot mods in a 900 when they came out. I thought it sounded great, even though that amp then made one sound. I'm betting the same thing would happen on the Ems and you'd get one cool sound and lose 5 other cool ones. I must say that for any of the demos of the new version that I've seen, it doesn't remind me of what my old one sounded like and it puts me off a bit. Also, and not sure, I think the old one used a different tube from the current one. It was also a lot less bulky and didn't have the ground attachment. Might also add that I watched for the hotmod for a few years on eBay (long time ago) and maybe 1 came up for sale at a ridiculously high price.
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Post by Daddy-T on May 3, 2022 5:56:01 GMT -7
I've Been Thinking about Buying one of the Hot Mods to try it out. Does anybody know which one would be needed? Standard wiring or Reverse Wiring?
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Post by helmi on May 3, 2022 6:31:14 GMT -7
Doc’s gonna love this one!
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Post by frankie on May 3, 2022 10:44:21 GMT -7
It should be standard wiring. The cathode follower takes the signal in at pin 2, like a standard marshall cathode follower (V2).
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Post by Daddy-T on May 3, 2022 11:22:17 GMT -7
Thanks. I'm not even sure if I'm going to try one. I am ecstatic with the tone of the EMS. Just exploring options.
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Post by adam on May 3, 2022 15:19:04 GMT -7
I think someone with an EMS should buy one and tell me how it goes. 😎My other guesses is that it will sound fantastic because the platform itself is fantastic, but it will also turn it into a one-trick pony.
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Post by Norrin Radd on May 4, 2022 2:20:11 GMT -7
I think someone with an EMS should buy one and tell me how it goes. 😎My other guesses is that it will sound fantastic because the platform itself is fantastic, but it will also turn it into a one-trick pony. This would be exactly my fear. As it is now, the versatility of the EMS is one of the things that makes it so amazing. I would not want to do any mod that might change that. And, as nmz stated above, just use a pedal. There are only about 14 quadrillion dirt pedal options these days - I’m sure one could do the trick without compromising the integrity of the amp in its original form.
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on May 4, 2022 3:32:58 GMT -7
I just checked out Pete Thorn's video of this and it sounds great. But he could make a cheese grater sound good, so there's that.
I don't know if this would even be necessary with the EMS but it would be a fun exercise in cash disposal!
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Post by Daddy-T on May 5, 2022 9:02:06 GMT -7
I've spent 30 years buying and selling Pedals. I finally Figured out that I was not going to "hit" the Marshall tone Without the wattage. So I bought the EMS. the first day I realized that I was right. I had never gotten that tone from a pedal or a lower wattage amp. I think the EMS in full "Gain" mode is a lot for my taste. I just see the hot mod as a easy & reversible add on. another "versatility" add on.
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Post by daddyelmis (Greg) on May 5, 2022 11:04:20 GMT -7
I don’t know much (my wife says “anything”) but that looks like a good bit of weight to put on a preamp tube socket. Do you have to remove it before moving the amp around?
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Post by adam on May 5, 2022 14:53:17 GMT -7
I've spent 30 years buying and selling Pedals. I finally Figured out that I was not going to "hit" the Marshall tone Without the wattage. So I bought the EMS. the first day I realized that I was right. I had never gotten that tone from a pedal or a lower wattage amp. I think the EMS in full "Gain" mode is a lot for my taste. I just see the hot mod as a easy & reversible add on. another "versatility" add on. I don't know if wattage is really the tone, but there's something going on with punch and "oomph", and maybe increased dynamics with more wattage. Pedals, to me, they will just never do what an amp can do on the distortion front, or at least I've never found one. I just kind of think it's not possible due to physics or something. The hot mod, I've mentioned it before, but I had one of the original ones in a 50 watt Marshall 900 when they came out and it was really something. I've had an alert on eBay for about 10 years for those and I think 1 has showed up in that time. The new one, that 2 tube thing and the ground wire, the old one didn't have that. It was one tube and no ground wire. And yes, looks sort of fragile to move (not that I ever go anywhere anymore). Maybe I'll buy one for fun, but I know it would be something that would have one application and that is it. For anyone with a CAZ, it's not that different that what you can get out of that amp, so that makes it even more redundant.
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Post by Daddy-T on May 6, 2022 2:25:32 GMT -7
I've spent 30 years buying and selling Pedals. I finally Figured out that I was not going to "hit" the Marshall tone Without the wattage. So I bought the EMS. the first day I realized that I was right. I had never gotten that tone from a pedal or a lower wattage amp. I think the EMS in full "Gain" mode is a lot for my taste. I just see the hot mod as a easy & reversible add on. another "versatility" add on. I don't know if wattage is really the tone, but there's something going on with punch and "oomph", and maybe increased dynamics with more wattage. Pedals, to me, they will just never do what an amp can do on the distortion front, or at least I've never found one. I just kind of think it's not possible due to physics or something. The hot mod, I've mentioned it before, but I had one of the original ones in a 50 watt Marshall 900 when they came out and it was really something. I've had an alert on eBay for about 10 years for those and I think 1 has showed up in that time. The new one, that 2 tube thing and the ground wire, the old one didn't have that. It was one tube and no ground wire. And yes, looks sort of fragile to move (not that I ever go anywhere anymore). Maybe I'll buy one for fun, but I know it would be something that would have one application and that is it. For anyone with a CAZ, it's not that different that what you can get out of that amp, so that makes it even more redundant. I think we are on the same page. My comment about Wattage could have been worded better. My point was kinda along the lines of "I have found no better way to reproduce the Marshall tones other than having the full circuit." I haven't found a pedal that sounds correct. I haven't found a lower wattage amp that sounds correct. So finally I resorted to buying a 50 Watt. When its not Broke don't fix it with pedals.
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Post by inepttones on Jun 4, 2022 16:00:34 GMT -7
Standard wired version works. If you want heavy metal drop tuned type gain it can get there. Works great in all modes of EMS. I have the new version with 12at7 and 12ax7 it can clean up nicely but cant beat the EMS stock clean up. Can get some gnarly tones at lower volumes as well. Fun product when you want to go to that level of gain. The stock EMS is near perfect on its own ticks all my boxes but nice to have even more versatility when recording. Hope this helps.
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Post by madhermit on Jun 7, 2022 18:19:13 GMT -7
Standard wired version works. If you want heavy metal drop tuned type gain it can get there. Works great in all modes of EMS. I have the new version with 12at7 and 12ax7 it can clean up nicely but cant beat the EMS stock clean up. Can get some gnarly tones at lower volumes as well. Fun product when you want to go to that level of gain. The stock EMS is near perfect on its own ticks all my boxes but nice to have even more versatility when recording. Hope this helps. Thanks for chiming in, much appreciated!
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