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Post by helmi on Sept 10, 2019 16:34:16 GMT -7
Does anyone know how to wire a neck pup direct without connecting it to a tone pot? i'm having new pups installed in 2 guitars, each with just a single volume and tone pot, and I want the neck pup NOT connected to the tone control, so it's wide open all the time. (the bridge pup WILL be connected to the tone control) if anyone has a diagram, can you please post it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2019 18:25:25 GMT -7
Another option is to use a "no load" tone pot.
When it's wide open it's virtually bypassed.
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Post by headshrinker (Marc) on Sept 10, 2019 19:55:18 GMT -7
Martin: What kind of switch are you using? Fender style or Gibson? If you use the two pickups together with any switch the tone control will be in the circuit, because it is connected to the bridge pickup. I think I can figure out how to do it with a Fender style switch pretty easily, since you have extra lugs. Have to think a minute on a Gibson. I think what you have to do in either case, is disconnect the tone control from the volume pot completely and then run a wire from where the bridge pickup hot lead hits the switch to the input of the tone pot. Then run the cap from one of the tone pot lugs, I'd use middle, to the back of the pot and ground the back. What kind of guitar is it? That would help. I'm imagining this, so there might be more to it.
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Post by GuitarZ on Sept 10, 2019 20:00:54 GMT -7
Realize it may open it a bit more. That’s not always a bad thing.
My neck pickup tone control broke on my les Paul 35 some years ago. We bypassed it to make sure it wasn’t stuck partially on. I remember once we ‘fixed’ it, it just didn’t sound as good. It’s been bypassed ever since.
I’m traveling. Can’t help out on the circuit. If memory serves, it’s in parallel with my volume on the les Paul. I think we just snipped the lead or leads.
I could be wrong.
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Post by GuitarZ on Sept 10, 2019 22:29:21 GMT -7
I suppose when you're traveling, you don't fully read the thread before responding. Now I see what you're doing. Single volume and tone. My Les Paul example doesn't help.
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Post by helmi on Sept 11, 2019 2:00:49 GMT -7
Martin: What kind of switch are you using? Fender style or Gibson? What kind of guitar is it? That would help. I'm imagining this, so there might be more to it. 3 way toggle on a PRS singlecut. Mark (timeless) was a little puzzled on how to do it, which surprised me.
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Post by headshrinker (Marc) on Sept 11, 2019 10:00:40 GMT -7
I'm a bit surprised Mark couldn't figure it out too. If you aren't in a hurry to do it, you could bring the guitar to the Akron show and I could tell you how to do it while looking at it. If you want to get it done soon, I think this should do it. It's a lot of repeat from my first post. 1. Tell Mark you are essentially wiring it up like a Strat tone control, where you have a wire running from the hot of a pickup directly to the tone control so it only affects one pickup. That will probably get him thinking in the right direction. 2. Cut the wire that runs from the volume pot to the tone control. It may be a cap that connects them. Cut it at the volume control end in case you want to put it all back sometime. 3. Attach a wire to the side of the selector switch where the hot wire from the bridge pickup attaches. Leave the bridge hot there too. 4. Run that wire to the lug on the tone pot where the jumper from the volume pot attached. You can attach it to the wire you cut, if you like. If so be sure and tape off the connection you make so it won't short out. If the jumper from volume to tone pot was a cap, attach the new wire to the end of the tone cap that was attached to the volume pot. Again, I would tape it off at that connection. 5. Now what should happen is, when you are in the neck only position, the tone pot is disabled. When you are in the bridge or middle position, it will be active. In the middle position it will affect both pickups. I don't know any way to get around that. 6. Roscoe's idea of replacing the tone pot with a "no load pot isn't a bad idea, if you want to buy and change out the pot. It would essentially do the same thing as what I said. Tone control out of the circuit when it is all the way up and then in as you use it. That would give you the option of a tone pot on the neck pickup if you wanted one. It would also get you both pickups with no tone pot load when the tone was all the way up and you were in the middle position. 7. Hope another guitar techie guy looks this over to make sure I didn't leave anything out. 8. Good luck. let us know how it comes out. 9. And because I am always curious, what pickups are you putting in it?
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Post by helmi on Sept 11, 2019 12:33:47 GMT -7
Thank you very much Marc. I talked to a tech at TV JONES and he is going to e-mail me a diagram.
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Post by headshrinker (Marc) on Sept 11, 2019 12:37:38 GMT -7
Please let me know if it looks anything like what I said.
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Post by helmi on Sept 11, 2019 13:50:31 GMT -7
Please let me know if it looks anything like what I said. OK. I'll make a copy and bring you one when I see you next month.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2019 13:26:19 GMT -7
Here's a diagram of how I did it on a tele. Remove the wire with the "x" on it, add the wire shown as "new". This might not be your exact configuration, but you might be able to suss it out:
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