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Post by rickyp on Jul 18, 2017 8:51:23 GMT -7
This question is for anyone who has either owned or played both the 1x10 combo version of the Monza, as well as the 1x12 version. Does anybody notice a significant difference in sound? I haven't had the best experience with 10 inch speakers in the past, and I'm considering the 1x10 version of the Monza. For it's light weight and compact size. Looking for a gigging amp that has some gain on tap so I won't need to carry around 6 OD pedals.
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Post by Mark (Basement Enthusiast) on Jul 18, 2017 11:06:39 GMT -7
I've played the 1x12 combo a while ago; but to be fair it was before Doc had the M.V. on the Monza, so I probably wouldn't have even been able to use that amp (can you say LOUD?). And of course I currently have the 1x10 combo. I don't (or shouldn't) be comparing that 1x12 to my 1x10 so I won't, but I will make one random comment:
The 1x10 is definitely more compact, and it's light-ish in weight—and that's something to pay close attention to. The 1x10 combo (mine has an Eminence Ramrod speaker, very nice) already weighs 39 or 40 lbs. Now I don't know about you guys, but that's about the limit of what I consider as an "easily portable" box of anything. Luckily for me, a 1x10 format suits the Monza quite well, because I'm not sure I'd want to lug around 45+ pounds of it in a bigger 1x12 combo cab.
However... if Doc's new lightweight cabs extend to be optional on the Monza 1x12 cab, then we might be talking. 'Cause if you could get a 1x12 down to 40-ish pounds, then I think now we've got a contest between the 1x10 and the 1x12. [Perhaps too, if we didn't have such respectable 10" speakers on the market, we wouldn't be having this discussion. But since the Z-Red Fang 10 and the Ramrod are such "big-sounding" speakers for their size, they actually can keep-up with a lot of 12's out there.]
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Post by rickyp on Jul 18, 2017 11:26:14 GMT -7
I've played the 1x12 combo a while ago; but to be fair it was before Doc had the M.V. on the Monza, so I probably wouldn't have even been able to use that amp (can you say LOUD?). And of course I currently have the 1x10 combo. I don't (or shouldn't) be comparing that 1x12 to my 1x10 so I won't, but I will make one random comment: The 1x10 is definitely more compact, and it's light -ish in weight—and that's something to pay close attention to. The 1x10 combo (mine has an Eminence Ramrod speaker, very nice) already weighs 39 or 40 lbs. Now I don't know about you guys, but that's about the limit of what I consider as an "easily portable" box of anything. Luckily for me, a 1x10 format suits the Monza quite well, because I'm not sure I'd want to lug around 45+ pounds of it in a bigger 1x12 combo cab. However... if Doc's new lightweight cabs extend to be optional on the Monza 1x12 cab, then we might be talking. 'Cause if you could get a 1x12 down to 40-ish pounds, then I think now we've got a contest between the 1x10 and the 1x12. [Perhaps too, if we didn't have such respectable 10" speakers on the market, we wouldn't be having this discussion. But since the Z-Red Fang 10 and the Ramrod are such "big-sounding" speakers for their size, they actually can keep-up with a lot of 12's out there.] Excellent response. What sort of music do you play? How much gain do you dial in?
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Post by Mark (Basement Enthusiast) on Jul 18, 2017 11:31:21 GMT -7
Well, although the Monza can do 70's/80's in-your-face rock very well, I actually use it for lower-gain bluesy slightly-overdriven stuff. I've always preferred the Drive knob a little higher on the dial than wherever the Volume is, and Tone & Master Volume to taste. (Generally, Volume roughly @ the 10:30 position, and Drive @ 11:30.)
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Post by simpleton on Jul 18, 2017 12:39:58 GMT -7
I had a 1x10 combo with Red Fang and a head and 1x12 convertible cab with. WGS Reaper 55hz....I liked it better in the 12 because the 12 rounded the tone out a bit....sorta softened it.
The 10" is by far my favorite size and it fits in a band more in the guitar zone. Leaving ample room for bass and not getting lost in a mix. BUT you lose some low end....not noticed until you are beside a 12".
Either is a win. I've had 3 MONZAs ..... I'd get another. I don't know why I keep selling them. You can't replace its tone with a pedal. I've tried 3 times and failed 3 times😀
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Post by rickyp on Jul 18, 2017 12:49:48 GMT -7
Well, although the Monza can do 70's/80's in-your-face rock very well, I actually use it for lower-gain bluesy slightly-overdriven stuff. I've always preferred the Drive knob a little higher on the dial than wherever the Volume is, and Tone & Master Volume to taste. (Generally, Volume roughly @ the 10:30 position, and Drive @ 11:30.) Awesome. I was really hoping to use it for light-medium overdrive, and keep a pedal in front of it when I need more gain. Currently I play through a Tone King Imperial, and I've got 5 OD pedals and a clean boost for different degrees of dirt, but I'm joining a band where I won't need as much variety, so I'd like to have a simpler rig. An amp with good OD (but not too much), and a couple pedals. Won't get rid of my current rig...just want to assemble a simpler one for the new gig.
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Post by rickyp on Jul 18, 2017 16:04:55 GMT -7
I had a 1x10 combo with Red Fang and a head and 1x12 convertible cab with. WGS Reaper 55hz....I liked it better in the 12 because the 12 rounded the tone out a bit....sorta softened it. The 10" is by far my favorite size and it fits in a band more in the guitar zone. Leaving ample room for bass and not getting lost in a mix. BUT you lose some low end....not noticed until you are beside a 12". Either is a win. I've had 3 MONZAs ..... I'd get another. I don't know why I keep selling them. You can't replace its tone with a pedal. I've tried 3 times and failed 3 times😀 Awesome! Thanks for the input. I think you and I are very similar... i've had two Maz 18s, and I can't figure out for the life of me why I sold both of them.
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