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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2017 14:01:36 GMT -7
Fun show at the Mousetrap Tavern here in Eau Claire last night. Lots of compliments on tone and playing, even though it seemed to me that I wasn't playing all that well--just couldn't get my brain and my hands to sync quite right. Still, a great crowd and fun had by all. The new PA gear also worked out really well.
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Post by Faze on Feb 4, 2017 14:21:02 GMT -7
Yea the Z-lux has such a great tone too it. I get nothing but compliments playing through it. Even though I think I suck sometimes. Actually I think that most the time. I think your just being hard on yourself Jon you was probably rocking the house. Cool pic looked like a fun gig!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2017 14:39:32 GMT -7
It was a fun night, for sure--although I'm maybe a little too old for the three-set bar gig plus load in/out. I definitely feel it today, even though I didn't drink a whole lot. We've got video of the first set and-a-half, so we'll see if my impressions match the actual results. In some ways, the best part was maybe the band dinner before the gig. It's gotten to be kind of a tradition for us--our bass player is a terrific cook, and everybody pitches in some way or another.
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Post by doctorice on Feb 4, 2017 15:56:24 GMT -7
Very nice, Jon: chow, rig, gig. Z-Lux settings right in the zone where it will be chuggin' without being fearfully loud. Were you running on 40 watts?
We seldom do three-set gigs anymore. A lot of places here are in towns with noise restrictions. The gigs are often 9 to 12 or 9:30 to 12:30. We find two longish sets work better for us. It also seems to work for the venues since we'll often hold some of the dinner crowd and then still be playing when the later-in-the-evening crowd materializes. Heck, sometimes I even think we help entice some of that crowd to come in.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2017 15:58:39 GMT -7
Sweet!!! Great looking set up indeed...bet it sounded great!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2017 17:06:50 GMT -7
It really rips, Mark. What's great is that even if I'm not playing my best, I know I still sound good, tone-wise.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2017 17:13:09 GMT -7
Very nice, Jon: chow, rig, gig. Z-Lux settings right in the zone where it will be chuggin' without being fearfully loud. Were you running on 40 watts? We seldom do three-set gigs anymore. A lot of places here are in towns with noise restrictions. The gigs are often 9 to 12 or 9:30 to 12:30. We find two longish sets work better for us. It also seems to work for the venues since we'll often hold some of the dinner crowd and then still be playing when the later-in-the-evening crowd materializes. Heck, sometimes I even think we help entice some of that crowd to come in. Yep--40 watts just sounds a bit fatter if you can manage it. I run almost the whole night with either the Velvet Fuzz of the Jetter GS-124 set at moderate gain and just a tad above unity, which gives me excellent girth, dirt and sustain. I think a lot of people think Fender with the Lux, since it's an "American" style amp, but man is it stellar with a Lester. As I say, if Doc has ever built an amp destined to be a classic, I think the Lux is it.
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Post by premiumplus (Dave) on Feb 4, 2017 17:38:37 GMT -7
Looks like a fun night, and a great rig ya got there, brother! That amp sure is purty in white!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 7:53:58 GMT -7
It was a fun night, for sure--although I'm maybe a little too old for the three-set bar gig plus load in/out. I definitely feel it today, even though I didn't drink a whole lot. We've got video of the first set and-a-half, so we'll see if my impressions match the actual results. In some ways, the best part was maybe the band dinner before the gig. It's gotten to be kind of a tradition for us--our bass player is a terrific cook, and everybody pitches in some way or another. That looks delicious!! Be sure to share that video eh!
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Post by kc on Feb 5, 2017 8:04:27 GMT -7
Great rig and great looking chow. Curious to know - is the platform-thingy below your pedal board/mic stand/guitar rack yours, or part of the stage there?
kc
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Post by Maddog on Feb 5, 2017 8:15:09 GMT -7
We seldom do three-set gigs anymore. We find two longish sets work better for us. We found the same thing.....But in our case, with 3 set gigs, it seems like playing for the initial 45 minutes the crowd really starts to get into our vibe.....and then we kill the buzz it by taking a break.....then we gotta heat 'em up again only to take another break 45 mins later......
We now take only one break. The band prefers it and I think the audience does as well....and I know the music sounds better, because we are in "the zone" for longer periods of time...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 8:23:35 GMT -7
Two longer sets is a pretty interesting idea. So how do you work it? An hour-20 each and then a half-hour break?
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Post by GuitarZ on Feb 5, 2017 9:09:52 GMT -7
Uh. Can I join your band? I don't care what kind of music you play. I just want to join the pre-show dinner. That looks great!
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Post by BritInvasion on Feb 5, 2017 9:30:21 GMT -7
Nice Jon. Glad to hear the new PA worked out too!
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Post by Maddog on Feb 5, 2017 10:03:06 GMT -7
Two longer sets is a pretty interesting idea. So how do you work it? An hour-20 each and then a half-hour break? Honestly we play appx 1:15 - 1:25 and take a break when the mood feels "right." Usually no more than 20 min break or you'll lose the crowd....then back into it until the set list is done.....(Same number of songs as a 3 set night)....
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Post by doctorice on Feb 5, 2017 10:18:28 GMT -7
We seldom do three-set gigs anymore. We find two longish sets work better for us. We found the same thing.....But in our case, with 3 set gigs, it seems like playing for the initial 45 minutes the crowd really starts to get into our vibe.....and then we kill the buzz it by taking a break.....then we gotta heat 'em up again only to take another break 45 mins later......
We now take only one break. The band prefers it and I think the audience does as well....and I know the music sounds better, because we are in "the zone" for longer periods of time...
This has also been our experience, Lee. Great points, brother!
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Post by doctorice on Feb 5, 2017 10:27:02 GMT -7
Two longer sets is a pretty interesting idea. So how do you work it? An hour-20 each and then a half-hour break? Honestly we play appx 1:15 - 1:25 and take a break when the mood feels "right." Usually no more than 20 min break or you'll lose the crowd....then back into it until the set list is done.....(Same number of songs as a 3 set night).... Same here, although our sets are designed to end on a certain tune, usually one that's pretty high energy. I try to keep the break to 15 minutes. Fwiw, we usually have a 35-song list. It's not unusual for us to skip one or two tunes. This usually happens if we end up jamming a bit longer on some of the numbers that are structured for same. We almost always stick with our plan of having certain favored tunes end sets. Example: We really like ending the night -- there's almost always a hard stop due to noise ordinances so encores are not going to happen -- with Roadhouse Blues. We'll cut something along the way if it looks like we're going to go more than a couple minutes past the hour when the cops show up. (It has happened. Which is pretty cool for a bunch of geezers like us: "The cops shut us down, man." )
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Post by Sean on Feb 5, 2017 13:03:55 GMT -7
i do not think i could play well at all after a dinner like that!
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Post by zpilot on Feb 5, 2017 16:42:01 GMT -7
No need to be hard on yourself if you weren't 100%. Sometimes being a pro means having good tone and just not hitting any bad notes. If the audience doesn't know that you weren't all that inspired then I say you have that figured out. Whether you realize it or not.
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Post by John on Feb 5, 2017 18:45:49 GMT -7
We seldom do three-set gigs anymore. The gigs are often 9 to 12 or 9:30 to 12:30. I remember playing gigs where it was FIVE SETS!!! 9-2am! Then a 1 hour drive after the equipment was packed. I look back on those days and thing: "Why did I ever do that?" The money wasn't that good either.
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Post by doctorice on Feb 6, 2017 8:30:21 GMT -7
We seldom do three-set gigs anymore. The gigs are often 9 to 12 or 9:30 to 12:30. I remember playing gigs where it was FIVE SETS!!! 9-2am! Then a 1 hour drive after the equipment was packed. I look back on those days and thing: "Why did I ever do that?" The money wasn't that good either. I've done that too, John. Once. Never went that route again. (Actual gig was at Lucille's (BB King's) on 42nd St in NYC, so it was a nice one to have on the resume.)
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Post by John on Feb 6, 2017 10:10:51 GMT -7
I've done that too, John. Once. Never went that route again. (Actual gig was at Lucille's (BB King's) on 42nd St in NYC, so it was a nice one to have on the resume.) You win.....mine was being a house band for the summer at a truck stop bar on I-70 just outside Newark....Ohio that is....not New Jersey! We actually played there or a couple of years at least once a month. But then that one summer...every Friday and Saturday....9-2am Yeah...Newark, Ohio...look it up. I did a lot of Eagles club gigs in Newark in the early 90's too. I don't care to ever go back there. Pronounce 'Nerk A-HA' by the locals.
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Post by zpilot on Feb 6, 2017 12:42:17 GMT -7
Most my gigs from the '70's to the '90's were four sets. Just like you older guys, 2 to 4 nights a week, occasionally 6. But I played a bar in Colorado for a short while that catered to tourists and was open 15 hours. They had 2 bands that each played 6 sets. One 3 to 9. The other 9 to 3. We did that 6 days-a-week. After a period of scrounging for work (disco era and we were Southern-rock) we thought we had hit a gold mine because the money was good and steady but we only could do it for 6 weeks before the voices gave out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 13:29:31 GMT -7
Nice Jon. Glad to hear the new PA worked out too! Yeah--the Yamaha board and the QSC K12s are awesome. Folks who'd been to previous gigs remarked on the clarity of the vocals and overall quality of the mix.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 13:30:19 GMT -7
Will post a bit of video here shortly, although the sound quality isn't great and the Lux sounds a lot more distorted than it really was.
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