Post by Paul (TRANE) on Jan 10, 2016 16:21:58 GMT -7
Oh yeah. Thanks. I saw the one on the Surgical Steel. It seems that it is an independent model. There were two new Delta 88 heads pictured here recently and the steel too. I figure they are two separate amps with similar lineages and such. I can't wait to get a hold of a new Delta 88. Time will tell...as always.
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Feb 20, 2016 10:08:15 GMT -7
Here's some info I found online
I just tried out the prototype for the new Dr. Z Surgical Steel tube amp. This thing is: A) LOUD B) Clear at low volume C) Punchy
I don't play lead guitar, but I'm well aware of Dr. Z amps. Plus, his factory is nearby. I'll defer to John Billings' post in Electronics for details, but I am very struck by just how clean, clear and present this amp sounds. Something like 92W, a 15" pedal steel speaker from Eminence (at NAMM as I write), and a very simple front. Bass, treble and volume. No reverb or effects loop. I was concerned the mids might be missing, but I was very happy with what the amp had. It's also quite surprising to hear how well this thing performs at bedroom volume. Still has a very good bass response, and stays clear at that level. I was also surprised by how my dirt pedals sound through this amp - noticeably different than through my Milkman amps. The good Doc said that he opts for his own ideas, rather than cloning or just updating something else. I was able to get the amp to go into break-up, but it's really loud at that point.
Dr. Z will be moving this into production soon, and I hope to update this thread when he does. I also hope to A/B the speaker in a smaller cab as well as the 4X10 cab I tried today. Doc feels the larger one (very little weight added) is clearer, but I couldn't compare directly. Next time. Also, I plan to try my large effects board for noise level. The Surgical Steel is another contender in the expanding realm of fine tube amps designed for pedal steel. _________________ 1979 MSA U12 Pedal Steel, 8 + 5, w/ToneAligner pickup 2011 Bear Creek MK Weissenborn Milkman 85W PSG and 40W Mini amps w/Telonics 15" speakers, Stone Deaf Fig Fumb, RML MIG & EFC, Fairfield Randy's Revenge & Barbershop, ZVex Fuzz Factory & Sonar, Pigtronix Echolution 2 Ultra Pro, WMD Geiger Counter, Red Panda Particle, EHX POG2, Empress VM SuperDelay, Strymon TimeLine & Mobius, Eventide SPACE.
Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Feb 20, 2016 10:08:54 GMT -7
A follow-up post
Post Posted 10 Feb 2016 1:02 pm Reply with quote I had another go round with the Dr. Z Surgical Steel amp. I tried it through 2 cabs - one a bit smaller than the other. I agreed with Doc that the bigger one is a bit fuller sounding.
NOW.... for the big news that some folks were waiting to hear: I also tried the SS head with a newly installed Mids control. Yep, the good Doc decided it might as well be an option. My take is that the amp sounded very good without it, but this control adds even more to a well-rounded tone. Setting it a noon is about the same as the head with only treble and bass, so this can be scooped further if desired. One advantage mentioned is that this control can also help dial in a room better. I didn't feel the Mids was as dramatic as the Mids and Shift on a Peavey 400, but it's just enough. There was a EZG 50, which I tried out through the Eminence steel speaker. As it wasn't designed for pedal steel, it started breaking up earlier than the Surgical Steel. It did, however, have a nice tone and killer reverb. Still, the SS just came out on top. I will also be trying this amp out live over the weekend, and will post again. _________________ 1979 MSA U12 Pedal Steel, 8 + 5, w/ToneAligner pickup 2011 Bear Creek MK Weissenborn Milkman 85W PSG and 40W Mini amps w/Telonics 15" speakers,
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