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Post by bluzman on May 12, 2007 20:19:50 GMT -7
OK... I've used my Stang Ray at about 6 gigs... 2 gigs at 2.5 or 3 on the volume... The other 4 gigs with the AirBrake and the voume 6++ .
I have my amp volume at about 6 or 6+ the tone about 3 (a little less) and the cut between 3 and 6. The Airbrake and the cut are all I have really been changing when I decrease the attenuation. Anyways what the others in the band have found... and what I have found is that as I click the next step down in attenuation, it's not really getting louder in basic volume but it seems to WIDEN or EXPAND in general sound charachteristic... then I've been tweaking the tone with the cut... That is the best way I can explain it...
But here is my question to those that use a SR with airbrake... Have you noticed this or something similar?
I am presently using telecasters as my guitars. I think I'm going to not use the Airbrake and get above 5 on the voume... With the volume above 5 on my Stang Ray, the amp sings, but I'm not very sure the AirBrake or the transparency of the Air Brake. IT does do attenuation nicely though.
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Post by Hohn on May 14, 2007 21:06:06 GMT -7
I have a Hot Plate, not the air brake, so this is probably irrelvant.
But I have noticed that a lot of the glass goes away with more attenuation. In other words, the bright cutting tone that I get running straight through with the tone at noon and cut at 10:00 goes away. I can bring back SOME of the cut by cranking the cut control up, but it's never quite the same.
The Hot Plate has two switched on the front which help to bring back the upper and lower registers affected by the attenuation, but this is only a help, not a cure.
The other weird thing to me is that the tonal change is very noticeable from stright through to -4db, but the change is less distinct as you increase attenuation. I can't hear a difference between -12 and -16. For that matter, -8 sounds the same to me, too.
So basically I have two tones-- attenuated and not. The AMOUNT of attentuation seems to matter little. With the Plate cranked up, I can get a really cool, woody Marshallish tone from the Ray. Most of the Voxy bite is gone at this point, but it really smoothes the OD tones and makes them a little more useful. Otherwise, I have to dial back the tone on the individual fx relative to the clean tone.
I personally prefer a brighter amp that allows me to take the edge off at the guitar. I think this is because I've had such dark amps in the past that I never had this option before. No matter what I did tonally, my past amps always got lost in any mix. No so with a Z amp!
Hopefully, this isn't a complete was of your time and you get something out of this-- just my experience with the Ray and my attenuator.
Justin
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Post by bluzman on May 15, 2007 5:38:51 GMT -7
It's not irrevalent at all. I also have a Weber attenuator and it's basically the same as you are describing. I guess there is no REAL transparent attenuation... THe AirBrake is definitely closer to being transparent than my Weber but they both do it their own way and what I am finding is the less I can get away with the better. ( who would've thunk that?) Even when I use the LOW input on the front as opposed to the high input, the high just makes a huge difference and sounds MUCH better. Maybe when the speaker break in...
I was talking to a friend of mine today who is a touring musician, about breaking in speakers, and how he can probably break in speakers in half the time or less than it would take for me to do the same! Or maybe he just wanted to use my Al Blues cab for a while... mmmmmmmmmm
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