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Post by travsbluz on Jun 26, 2007 11:06:04 GMT -7
Well, some friends and I set up a room recently to record a demo for practicing some new songs. Here is the first one. This song is called Welcome Home. It is my tribute to my dad originally as he was a Vietnam Vetran. But it is also for every other Vietnam Vetran as well. The recording sound is not amazing, but it is the first attempt at running this setup, so... The Guitar part is: PRS Singlecut Barber Direct Drive: Volume: @1o'clock Tone: @1o'clock (and pulled out) Overdrive: @9o'clock RXES: Hi gain input Overdose On Volume: @ 10o'clock Bass: Dimed Mid: 3o'clock Treble: 7o'clock At some point there is a H&K Rotosphere turned on for rhythm part but it is only on for about 4 bars. Any how there are some rough spots, but it sure is fun after 2 years of talking about it with some friends to actually make an attempt to record something. I hope you like it. media.putfile.com/Welcome-Home-11
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Post by dock66 on Jun 26, 2007 12:51:39 GMT -7
Darn it, couldn't open it.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jun 26, 2007 16:23:17 GMT -7
Opened for me.
Sounds pretty good for a first effort! What's the recording setup? Mics? Placement?
I think the guitar sounds pretty good, but the bass sounds like he had a pillow over the speaker or something. Interesting song!
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Post by taswegian on Jun 26, 2007 16:51:54 GMT -7
Hey, great song. Except now ya got me thinkin' about a RXES Jr!!!! Love the lead tone you get in the trippy bridge. Good stuff.
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Post by travsbluz on Jun 26, 2007 17:20:47 GMT -7
I appreciate the comments. The recording setup is pretty interesting so bear with me on this one. Any pointers and tips you could lend out with any of the equipment I mention, PLEASE let me know. The guys are all kind of looking at me for setting up and doing all of this and I've never done anything like this before.
A friend has a Boss BR-900 (I think that is the correct model) Well I mixed everything down on a 16 channel mixing board, then ran the two outputs (Left and Right) to the recorder. Also we don't have a headphone set up, so the Vocals are comming back through monitors as with just a touch of guitar(it was put in a small bathroom/storage room) I think this has a bit to do with the kind of phasing effect through the recording. We are looking into a headphone setup though.
The bass rig was direct out of a Sans amp Rack mount into the mixer which was the best we could do without a good bass Frequency mic. (He's using Lakland and Aguilar 2x12 cab)
I forget which brand and model the drummer has for his drum mics. I don't think they sounded to bad. I have to figure out how to control the boominess of them
The harmonica setup is a Red Knob Fender Twin. Miced with an extra tom mic the drummer had.
The guitar rig as I mentioned before is in a sideroom wich is about 10'x10' square. I put the mic about 1 to 1 1/2 feet away from the speaker cabinet (2x10 Z cab) and I didn't realize until I got out there that I left my case with my microphones in it at home, so I settled with the other extra Drum mic. I've got a couple of EV mics and the usual Shure's 58 and 57's. I thought (at least with the drum mic) that the guitar rig was pretty bright with the mic right up on the grill cloth. Again though I've recorded one other time in my life and I never set any of it up. It's all trail and error right now.
Tasweigan, I forgot that I turned on the Dan Echo on the guitar solo part. I'm not sure if that's the part you liked but that's what I was using.
Anyway again, any help or pointers would definately be appreciated. Thanks Everyone, Travis
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jun 26, 2007 19:01:13 GMT -7
I usually use two mics on the guitar cab. I put one about 2 or 3 inches from the grille cloth, but definitely NOT in front of the center cone. I like it a lot better about half way between the center and the edge. Then I like another mic about five to eight feet in front of the cab, but pointed at a right angle. Mix them stereo and set their levels to equal and you have a great sounding guitar mix. One thing I noticed about the drums is the crash cymbal was overbearing a bit. I'm not sure what you can do about that without getting into all kinds of detail about the drum kit setup. Mixing the drums is absolutely the hardest part of setting up a recording. Even with a professional engineer who knows what he's doing, I always plan on two hours. If he takes only one, great. But I've seen it take the whole two hours to get it dialed in perfectly. If you're not in an environment where you have the option of a bazillion mics, that makes it all the more difficult. I wish I had some suggestions but I'm as green as you are on drum micing. The bass is puzzling because a direct feed should have had a lot more pizazz and presence. Of course the bass player may like it the way it came out. You might try a mic on his cab in addition to the direct feed and blend them together. Might sound very cool. One thing I've discovered about home recording gear - I'm never done. There is always one more piece I need to do it right. But the main thing is keep doing it - every time you do it will be better and better. Just like playing an instrument, practice practice practice.
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Post by highway61south on Jun 26, 2007 19:24:51 GMT -7
Keep on trucking guys.pretty good for a first try....Sterling
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