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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Oct 13, 2014 1:48:53 GMT -7
I have been one of those "amp on the ground at all times" guys since getting back to head/cab configuration, and I usually like it that way...
However, at the last 3 gigs, I've been playing small venues with wooden stage areas, and the amps are pretty shoved back against the walls - and with the Therapy, I'm getting a lot of bass boom, so have had to run with the bass almost off, and still need to be careful on certain settings and songs.
So, I tried out a friend's GAMMA over the weekend, and wow, what a difference! The boominess disappeared and an extra clarity to everything appeared, so much so, I have one inbound as we speak.
Now, to be clear about this, it's only for when I need it - not at every gig - just for those gigs with a hollow floor and a cramped stage. Otherwise, I like my amp on the floor in general. Following Roscoe's advice of several months ago, I have learnt how to hear myself with the amp on the floor, and in general, it gives a better sound than tilted back or lifted up, but there are times when you just have to use a little help!
I'll let you know how it works out when it arrives.........
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Post by j4gitr (John) on Oct 13, 2014 4:27:53 GMT -7
I too have come across those hollow stages that just seem to boom. The gamma has also been my solution. It's good to have for the times when it's needed.
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Post by Maddog on Oct 13, 2014 4:31:29 GMT -7
Hmmmmm interesting.... anxious for yer report, Pete!
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Post by digs57 on Oct 13, 2014 8:03:01 GMT -7
yeah will be curious...as I have givin these a good lookin over...have there sound baffles for my audio room.
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Post by southmusic70 on Oct 13, 2014 9:05:44 GMT -7
I've been using a Gramma since they first came out. I've found them to be particularly effective in reducing feedback from archtops/acoustic electrics, although I take the Gramma with me to every job I play, no matter what guitar(s), amp/cabinet or effects (or not) I'm using. To me the Gramma presents a better sonic picture to my ears than if I don't use it, and it doesn't suck any of the stuff from under the stage or bandstand into my sound. I also feel like it makes a miked cabinet or combo sound better, truer, if you will, and some of the guys I play with have noticed.
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Post by Paul (TRANE) on Oct 13, 2014 9:33:13 GMT -7
Agree. I have been using them since they came out as well. Love them. Especially on hollow core stages. Really helps keep the bass tight.
Sent from my SM-N900V using proboards
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Oct 13, 2014 10:56:39 GMT -7
This is all great to hear guys! In my last band, I stuck my rig up on the cover of the PA desk, which sort of worked (my Remedy and my Z28) but I was playing MUCH quieter in that band! Also, this band doesn't have anything like as big a desk, so the cover is a bit flimsy, and I don't want to keep relying on others for my tone "fixes", hence the jump into the Gamma. It's good to hear others have had success with it for the same reasons - I wish I'd asked sooner!
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Post by jb on Oct 13, 2014 14:30:00 GMT -7
I think they are great. Helps with the consistency of the sound that you get.
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Post by helmi on Oct 13, 2014 16:23:13 GMT -7
I have 3 of them. a GREAT little piece of gear not many know about.
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Post by bigplay on Oct 13, 2014 17:48:46 GMT -7
I am one of the many that don't know about this Gamma somebody explain or post a link. I did a google search but results did not appear to be what you have. Thanks Ray
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Post by southmusic70 on Oct 13, 2014 18:03:17 GMT -7
Big play
Google:
Auralex Gramma
Note spelling!
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Post by bigplay on Oct 13, 2014 18:51:05 GMT -7
Thanks Southmusic! I have seen those before just didnt know what I was looking at.
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Oct 13, 2014 23:04:33 GMT -7
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Post by deltone on Oct 14, 2014 7:33:05 GMT -7
Pete, your mention of Roscoe's advice about how to hear your amp with it on the floor caught my interest. I searched back through his posts but couldn't specifically locate it. Can you expound on that, or post the link to it if you have it? Many thanks.
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Post by nicholas on Oct 14, 2014 9:54:19 GMT -7
I have two. One for combo size, and the Great Gramma for my 4-12. Since I started using one I use it all the time. I don't play out. I use them at home to help with the vibrations in the room. I also seem to be able to dial in more low end without it getting "boomy". I really like them.
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Oct 14, 2014 10:58:31 GMT -7
Pete, your mention of Roscoe's advice about how to hear your amp with it on the floor caught my interest. I searched back through his posts but couldn't specifically locate it. Can you expound on that, or post the link to it if you have it? Many thanks. Man, I have no idea where that post is...... it was a while ago! I know Roscoe was very much a "put it on the floor" and just figure out how to hear yourself in the mix. I am one of those guys who wants to hear myself IN the mix, not over the top of it, and have often been told I am too quiet! (I know, VERY unusual indeed, but funnily, no-one has said that since I got my Therapy!! ) The way I did it was, stand out front at the end of a long cable, listen to the band mix and make sure I'm at the right place in the mix, and THEN walk back to my spot on stage, and listen to how it sounds there. Assuming all is well, then that is where I sit in the mix. If I just can't hear myself, then I get a higher monitor mix, or put something hard and flat BEHIND my cab, angled up, so I get a better reflection from my open back cab towards my head
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Post by deltone on Oct 14, 2014 11:22:23 GMT -7
Ok, thanks. I thought maybe he had a specific "trick." Was just curious. I'm pretty content with my cab tilted upward at my ears. The GAMMA has piqued my interest though. I understand the concept of it for when the whole cabinet sits flat on the floor, but I wonder if there's any noticeable difference if you're cab is tilted back, only resting on the back edge, and the majority of the cabinet is already suspended in the air? I'm thinking there wouldn't be much of a difference.
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Oct 14, 2014 23:20:52 GMT -7
You should try a couple of ice hockey pucks under the back corners......... that will tell you right away if there's any difference............
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Post by markT on Oct 15, 2014 4:28:09 GMT -7
I heard about these things here a couple of years ago. Where were you Pete!? My house upstairs has hardwood floors that can get kinda boomy and LOUD downstairs. These things work really nice. I haven't taken them out of the house, but as you guys mentioned, would be very useful on hollow stages. Congrats on you incoming Pete!
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Oct 15, 2014 6:14:27 GMT -7
I heard about these things here a couple of years ago. Where were you Pete!? My house upstairs has hardwood floors that can get kinda boomy and LOUD downstairs. These things work really nice. I haven't taken them out of the house, but as you guys mentioned, would be very useful on hollow stages. Congrats on you incoming Pete! looks like I wasn't paying attention......... oops! Funny thing is, I was aware that these existed, but never needed them before...... but with the Therapy, played at the volumes my new band plays at, this is DEFINITELY an issue at some venues! Looking forward to trying it out, when it arrives
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2014 8:36:49 GMT -7
Gramma does it's job as advertised. I have used them before. There are other solutions to 'boominess'. Many of them are as simple as moving the cabinet (away from the wall, out of a corner) if changing your settings isn't enough. The Gramma does work, I prefer my amp coupled to the floor in 95% of situations. Good part of the Gramma as opposed to angling your amp or raising your amp is that the speaker isn't pointing at your vocal microphone. It is not a soundproofing tool but it will drastically reduce rumble if you have neighbors downstairs.
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Oct 16, 2014 8:40:43 GMT -7
Gramma does it's job as advertised. I have used them before. There are other solutions to 'boominess'. Many of them are as simple as moving the cabinet (away from the wall, out of a corner) if changing your settings isn't enough. The Gramma does work, I prefer my amp coupled to the floor in 95% of situations. Good part of the Gramma as opposed to angling your amp or raising your amp is that the speaker isn't pointing at your vocal microphone. It is not a soundproofing tool but it will drastically reduce rumble if you have neighbors downstairs. Exactly! I need it for a couple of venues where moving the cab is just not possible at all (I can hardly fit the cab in the playing area at all!!. and it's up against the wall, in a corner ) With most of our venues, I have had no issues, and like the depth of tone I get with the cab / floor link..... it's also less kit to carry..... but there are times when needs must...................
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Post by jb on Oct 16, 2014 10:11:45 GMT -7
They are not that expensive, and for the money, you can just use it all the time and check that off your things to worry about.
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Oct 26, 2014 1:04:08 GMT -7
UPDATE: first gig played at the most challenging venue, and it was superb! Did what it says on the tin......... Bass boom tamed, and tone was clear and articulate. The Therapy has never sounded better. Job done
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Post by Paul (TRANE) on Oct 26, 2014 8:21:09 GMT -7
Great. I love mine. glad it worked.
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Post by daveyk on Oct 26, 2014 11:02:34 GMT -7
I had no idea what you guys were talking about, but realized it's GRAMMA not GAMMA. That might help your Google search if you are new to this product like i am. This seems like a really great product and concept though. I might have to get one for a few smaller places we play at.
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Oct 26, 2014 12:13:25 GMT -7
I had no idea what you guys were talking about, but realized it's GRAMMA not GAMMA. That might help your Google search if you are new to this product like i am. This seems like a really great product and concept though. I might have to get one for a few smaller places we play at. Typo corrected .......
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Post by mickey on Oct 31, 2014 9:05:06 GMT -7
Our bass player uses one. It works well to stop the low boominess which seems to fill every space, makes his sound a bit tighter.
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