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Post by Bill on Feb 13, 2006 16:54:09 GMT -7
I really like this amp Problem is I have no clue how to place a mic & all that, so this clip really doesn't do the Stingray tonal justice...just take my word, it sounds FAT and punchy. I ran thru my pedal board, Boss comp, AD 9 delay, to the amp, using my Tele, then commenced to fumbling around on the strings. For comparison, the RxES clip is directly below the SR clip: Stingray
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Post by JChance on Feb 13, 2006 18:04:04 GMT -7
I dig it, dude... Cool tone. Sounds like you've really got your bases covered...
The RXES and SR (or whatever!) sound like "variations on a similar theme" in your clips. Both, obviously, have some AC30 inspiration.
The 'Ray has the definite detail and a more "delicate" sound, while the RXES is darker, more "robust" for lack of a better term. I can see how Paisley likes them to work together. Good mixture of tones there-
Now I really don't think any of us will be satisfied until we have at least one of every model Mike makes!
JC
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Feb 13, 2006 21:42:09 GMT -7
Oh... I didn't need to hear that! I just bought the Mazerati, but this thing sounds very nice. Good chops too - excellent!
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Post by hdahs143 on Feb 13, 2006 22:09:57 GMT -7
Nice work Bill! As always very tasty playing, and the character of the amp comes through. It is an amazing amp. My local store still has their red 2x12 combo, and I'd love to have it, but I dont have the $$ at the moment, and I d@#% sure ain't selling my MAZ to get it. What a bummer
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Post by Bill on Feb 14, 2006 5:56:50 GMT -7
Thanks for listening and the comments guys! I think JC aptly describes the two amps very appropriately...basically one amp for the aggressive area, and one for detailed, smooth operations, although they both can cross over to some degree. bentop, not to worry...the Mazerati can hold it's own with any Z amp, a great choice IMO! And Harold, I really didn't have the $$$'s either...ya gotta be "innovative", man! Go get that amp b/f it's too late
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Post by nickg on Feb 14, 2006 7:46:48 GMT -7
Great tone and playing madison. Hi-jacking the thread a bit, you say you use an ad9 delay. Is this the maxon, the old ibanez, the ibanez keeley mod, ibanez reissue? What do you think of it? I ask since i'm on the lookout for a nice analog delay. Been using a friend's boss dm-3 and love it, but i need to get my own and i'm not sure i'm willing to fork out the money for a dm-3. Thanks Nick
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Post by propellr on Feb 14, 2006 7:54:13 GMT -7
If by "innovative" you mean "hold up a liquor store", I'm afraid posts concerning criminal activity are strictly prohibited by the administrators of this forum. LOL! If, however, you mean "spray paint your lawn furniture pink and sell it as 'lovers lounges' on ebay for Valentine's Day", I'd say, THAT's innovation!
What did you do, BTW? Throw some particle board over it and sneak it in as a coffee table for the basement?
I have an idea. I could come on over and "bring" my new Stingray and let you "borrow" it for a while, as long as you took care of it until I come back for it! Quick, hide the receipt!
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Post by Bill on Feb 14, 2006 8:24:16 GMT -7
Hey nick, I cheaped out and got this one. But, it's a cool pedal...no regrets, and I saved some bucks. Thanks for your comments too. propellr, nothing illegal ...I convinced my wife I would clear out some gear in my music room, so the deal would be an even swap. It took about 24 hours to sink in, but Sat morn I got the thumbs up. So me and the plastic card headed out to RMC!
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Post by rcrecelius on Feb 14, 2006 8:33:36 GMT -7
Your clip sounds good Madison...good fat tone happening there! I wish I were in the market for a new Z, I'd figure out where hdahs143 lives and get that red combo!
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Post by propellr on Feb 14, 2006 9:14:43 GMT -7
propellr, nothing illegal ...I convinced my wife I would clear out some gear in my music room, so the deal would be an even swap. It took about 24 hours to sink in, but Sat morn I got the thumbs up. So me and the plastic card headed out to RMC! Glad to hear you don't have to shell out for your new amp (and that I won't hear your name peppered all over the news!).
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Post by Bill on Feb 14, 2006 10:19:07 GMT -7
Your clip sounds good Madison...good fat tone happening there! I wish I were in the market for a new Z, I'd figure out where hdahs143 lives and get that red combo! Actually rc, Va Beach is only a 2 day straight shot from Tejas (made that trip before)...but, you are doing JUST FINE with your 28/RC booster, trust me! ;D
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Post by DRZ on Feb 15, 2006 5:22:26 GMT -7
Nice clips Bill, thanks for sharing them.
DR.Z
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Post by evildoc on Feb 15, 2006 7:29:54 GMT -7
Bill,
Nice clips all around...I listened to all the ones on your site. Much enjoyment! Stingray sounds great...but so does the RxES....
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Post by Phil (aka Phil) on Feb 15, 2006 8:20:35 GMT -7
Madison, Yeah... what the Doc said! Nice clips! What tele were you playin' there? Was that an Anderson?
PDW
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Post by G'OlPeachPhan on Feb 15, 2006 8:29:42 GMT -7
Awesome clip and great playing Madison! Man, that Z'ray has some great SPANK and articulation with a tele... Nice and clear in the upper mids and treble, with plenty of character in the lower mids and bass... And the bass and lower mids have a very surreal quality to them. Sounds larger than life! In comparison, the RxES sounds smoother and smokier with a bit thicker bottom, and a more relaxed top. Your clip shows this is also a great amp, but I think for my tastes if I had to chose based on these clips, the Z'ray would rock my world! Man, the more I experience that amp, the more I want one. I've gotta go find one to play locally, though I fear that would result in giving it residence here in Winneconne by my side.
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Post by Bill on Feb 15, 2006 9:39:54 GMT -7
Thanks doc & everyone for your comments. pdw, it's a stock Am Deluxe Tele w/ hipshot b bender. Peach, you'd appreciate the similarity between the Ghia and Stingray's simplicity in dialing in "your sound"...basically the same as the Ghia, but with a Cut control. The SR does not sound like or have the gain of the Ghia. And the RxEs gets radically "smokier" when you kick in the overdose ;D Like JC said, I can see where someone of BP's caliber would find it useful for having both onstage.
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Post by G'OlPeachPhan on Feb 15, 2006 11:49:50 GMT -7
Wonder how the Stingray would sound in stereo with a Ghia? If the Ghia was crankin' and the Stingray was set up relatively clean on edge of breakup, would the Stingray blow the Ghia away volume-wise, or could the Ghia keep up well enough?
One could probably balance out the volumes of the two by using slightly more efficient speakers with the Ghia, and slightly less efficient speakers with the S'ray.
So does the higher power Stingray mostly provide extra headroom over the lower powered Ghia, or is it a pretty good volume jump as well?
Even the KT-45 I had for a while wasn't THAT much louder than my Ghia... I was just a heck of a lot punchier and stiffer feeling with a heck of a lot more headroom.
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Post by Bill on Feb 15, 2006 18:11:16 GMT -7
For anyone interested, I put up a clip of the SRay using a Zendrive on the solo. I think it shows how well this amp takes to pedals, BUT...the recorder had GREMLINS in it, and the levels jumped all over without me touching the faders! Very annoying, and another example of how little I know about recording ;D The same song follows, using the RxES for comparison.
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Post by zane on Feb 16, 2006 4:03:05 GMT -7
Sounds purty good Mr. Bill
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Post by taswegian on Feb 16, 2006 5:03:11 GMT -7
Wonder how the Stingray would sound in stereo with a Ghia? If the Ghia was crankin' and the Stingray was set up relatively clean on edge of breakup, would the Stingray blow the Ghia away volume-wise, or could the Ghia keep up well enough? One could probably balance out the volumes of the two by using slightly more efficient speakers with the Ghia, and slightly less efficient speakers with the S'ray. So does the higher power Stingray mostly provide extra headroom over the lower powered Ghia, or is it a pretty good volume jump as well? Even the KT-45 I had for a while wasn't THAT much louder than my Ghia... I was just a heck of a lot punchier and stiffer feeling with a heck of a lot more headroom. Aahhh! Sounds to me like someone is talking himself into a Stingray/Ghia stereo rig to go with that nice shiny Echoczar! ;D Do it Peach, Do it! I'll give you all the encouragement you need. ;D It would be a RIGHTEOUS rig.
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Post by Bill on Feb 16, 2006 5:21:15 GMT -7
So does the higher power Stingray mostly provide extra headroom over the lower powered Ghia, or is it a pretty good volume jump as well? Even the KT-45 I had for a while wasn't THAT much louder than my Ghia... I was just a heck of a lot punchier and stiffer feeling with a heck of a lot more headroom. Peach, the Stingray is not a lot louder than the Ghia, but with 30w has more headroom. The RxES is noticeably louder than both. W/o pedals, you won't find much gain with the SR volume at 3:00, whereas the Ghia is DRIVIN' at the same setting. Using efficient/ non-efficient speakers would be a great idea if using the two together to bring the volume more into alignment. I've never been much for hauling 2 rigs out though, seeing as the Z line is fairly reliable and , knock on wood, have never had a Z go down...except the Ghia at a rehearsal. The SR takes pedals very well so increasing the gain lies there. I'm still blown away how good the zen does with this amp.
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Post by hdahs143 on Feb 16, 2006 5:58:49 GMT -7
Love the Zendrive clip. It sounds incredible. The amp itself sounds a little brighter/chimier than the first clip. Did you use different tone settings, and what speaker are you recording with?
Great stuff Bill
Harold
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Post by Bill on Feb 16, 2006 11:33:28 GMT -7
Love the Zendrive clip. It sounds incredible. The amp itself sounds a little brighter/chimier than the first clip. Did you use different tone settings, and what speaker are you recording with? Great stuff Bill Harold Harold, this time around was different than the first short clip: I used a slightly different mic placement, about 4" back at an angle towards the outer rim, set the amp tone fatter (3:00) with the cut higher to compensate (12:00), and am playing some chords which let the "chimeyness" show through. It almost come across at times as an acoustic guitar. The volume used was moderate gigging level, loud enough for a 4 pc band. It was recorded (clumsily), using a single well broken in AlNiCo Weber 50w Bluedog. I haven't tried the Tonker or any other speakers yet.
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Post by G'OlPeachPhan on Feb 20, 2006 19:44:38 GMT -7
As good as those clips sound and as much as I like your advice about using a 'ray w/ Ghia in stereo, it just isn't in the cards for right now... maybe in a year! Thanks for the info and the clips Madison!
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Post by brad737 on Apr 21, 2008 17:13:02 GMT -7
Bill, I just checked out your tunes. Really excellent. I really loved "Beckish". Would you mind if I added that to my myspace page? Thanks, Brad
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Post by Bill on Apr 22, 2008 14:04:17 GMT -7
Bill, I just checked out your tunes. Really excellent. I really loved "Beckish". Would you mind if I added that to my myspace page? Thanks, Brad Go right ahead, Brad...and thank you for the nice comment! 'Slow Beckish' is a bt that's been around a couple years now, created by a guy named Scott Lerner. I just played the guitar, he did all the rest!
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