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Post by bloozeman on Aug 16, 2014 7:48:30 GMT -7
anybody using these? Im in the market for buying some new speakers just for a change up in my tone. Im currently using a weber silver bell in my 1x12 maz jr cabinet, and im using a weber silver/blue in my 2x12 cabinet, but am going to get rid of the blue because I just don't like it as much as the silver. anyways Im looking at changing things up a bit and am looking at eminence speakers. what I want is a high 75 watt speaker for little to no breakup, but I use pedals for OD, and Im looking for that fat thick SRV, Kenny Wayne Shepherd type of tone for texas blues/blues rock. any suggestions?
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Post by strat59 on Aug 16, 2014 8:15:50 GMT -7
In addition to information gleaned from our Z-bros. you may want to call/or email Anthony Lucas (the Eminence tone guru). I've heard he is very helpful with speaker selection. Contact info is on their website. It doesn't hurt to get all the info you can before plunking down those hard earned $$. Just a thought. Good luck on your quest. Wish I could help but I don't know much about the Eminence models.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 8:34:26 GMT -7
You might like the NEO Lil' Texas. I have one that didn't work that well w the Ghia but I bet it would be a good fit w the MAZ.
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Post by Mark (Basement Enthusiast) on Aug 16, 2014 8:59:32 GMT -7
Which amp would you primarily be pairing this with--the Maz Jr?
For thick, fat SRV/KWS I'd suggest the Swamp Thang (huge, fat bottom, and really authoritative) or even the Red White & Blues (more neutral, less bass & highs/more mids, kinda like an American vintage 30). However, I wouldn't suggest mixing these with the Silver necessarily.. just seems like too far a stretch from vintage British to powerful American speakers. One Swamp Thang in a 1x12 alone will knock you right over! (Oh, and it's a heavy sucker, too.)
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Post by Mark (Basement Enthusiast) on Aug 16, 2014 9:13:57 GMT -7
Also, unfortunately though, I don't feel that you'd be able to totally get "that" sound you're lookin' for with the Maz. I dunno, just my thoughts. Z-28 would be crazy good for that, though. Or even the Monza, believe it or not, with the right speaker and a strat.
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Post by bloozeman on Aug 16, 2014 9:55:29 GMT -7
Which amp would you primarily be pairing this with--the Maz Jr? For thick, fat SRV/KWS I'd suggest the Swamp Thang (huge, fat bottom, and really authoritative) or even the Red White & Blues (more neutral, less bass & highs/more mids, kinda like an American vintage 30). However, I wouldn't suggest mixing these with the Silver necessarily.. just seems like too far a stretch from vintage British to powerful American speakers. One Swamp Thang in a 1x12 alone will knock you right over! (Oh, and it's a heavy sucker, too.) mainly be used for the maz jr 1x12 cabinet
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Post by bloozeman on Aug 18, 2014 14:49:11 GMT -7
Which amp would you primarily be pairing this with--the Maz Jr? For thick, fat SRV/KWS I'd suggest the Swamp Thang (huge, fat bottom, and really authoritative) or even the Red White & Blues (more neutral, less bass & highs/more mids, kinda like an American vintage 30). However, I wouldn't suggest mixing these with the Silver necessarily.. just seems like too far a stretch from vintage British to powerful American speakers. One Swamp Thang in a 1x12 alone will knock you right over! (Oh, and it's a heavy sucker, too.) The guy from eminence recommended I get the texas heats. do you know how these fare compared to the swamp thang?
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Post by Mark (Basement Enthusiast) on Aug 18, 2014 15:37:05 GMT -7
The guy from eminence recommended I get the texas heats. do you know how these fare compared to the swamp thang? From what I can tell (in my unprofessional opinion, not verified by Eminence) the Texas Heat seems to be constructed exactly the same as the Swamp Thang, but with a smaller magnet (38 oz. instead of 59 oz.). I have tried both speakers in the past, but don't own them right now, so bear with me here... From what I recall, the Texas Heat is just simply "a little bit less" of everything that the Swamp Thang has--which is not to say better or worse, just "less." The TH has less immediate/hard attack and not as loud as the ST, but still pretty fat with crisp & punchy upper-mids. I think it will get a little crispy/crunchy at higher volume, wheras the stronger ST would simply keep going loud & proud. (Hope that makes sense.) I've heard people regard the Texas Heat as a good all-around American speaker and I'd have to agree.
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Post by bloozeman on Aug 18, 2014 15:52:40 GMT -7
The guy from eminence recommended I get the texas heats. do you know how these fare compared to the swamp thang? From what I can tell (in my unprofessional opinion, not verified by Eminence) the Texas Heat seems to be constructed exactly the same as the Swamp Thang, but with a smaller magnet (38 oz. instead of 59 oz.). I have tried both speakers in the past, but don't own them right now, so bear with me here... From what I recall, the Texas Heat is just simply "a little bit less" of everything that the Swamp Thang has--which is not to say better or worse, just "less." The TH has less immediate/hard attack and not as loud as the ST, but still pretty fat with crisp & punchy upper-mids. I think it will get a little crispy/crunchy at higher volume, wheras the stronger ST would simply keep going loud & proud. (Hope that makes sense.) I've heard people regard the Texas Heat as a good all-around American speaker and I'd have to agree. might not be a bad idea to put a swamp and texas together in a 2x12?
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Post by lowbudget on Aug 18, 2014 17:11:33 GMT -7
You might like the NEO Lil' Texas. I have one that didn't work that well w the Ghia but I bet it would be a good fit w the MAZ. +1 on this. I have a Lil' Texas in a 20 watt Princeton reverb clone right now and love it, and I'm about to order another one to go in the 1x12 cab I use with my Maz Jr. To get just a little thicker and bluesier you might also want to consider the Tonker, or in a Neo version the Tonkerlite. I admit up front that I'm a bit of an Eminence junkie and use them any chance I get. I'll also second the suggestion about talking to Anthony. He knows what he's talking about and will steer you right.
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Post by bloozeman on Aug 18, 2014 17:25:23 GMT -7
Anthony at eminence told me to get the texas heat. I think that's what Im going to order on his recommendation and also from some of the clips Ive heard online. sounds to be a pretty smooth speaker and thick sounding
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Post by Mark (Basement Enthusiast) on Aug 18, 2014 17:49:30 GMT -7
might not be a bad idea to put a swamp and texas together in a 2x12? That could be pretty sweet, too. Hey, you know what... I just remembered our good buddy BW had a Swamp Thang in his MAZ 38 1x12 at some point, I believe. I recall he said it sounded great, but was pretty darn loud (not sure if it was the speaker or the 38 W that made it so loud?). I wonder if there's a chance he could chime in here about his experience with the MAZ and Swamp Thang..? But again, between the Swamp Thang, Texas Heat, plus the Lil' Texas, you can pretty much think of them all as similarly-constructed speakers with the magnets being the big difference: Swamp Thang, 59 oz. ceramic (heavy); Texas Heat, 38 oz. ceramic (medium/light); and Lil' Texas, neodymium (lightweight). Sorry, I have no experience with the neodymium speakers, but the same general difference between any "heavy" and "medium/light" magnet speakers would apply between the ST and TH.
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