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Post by hector on Feb 19, 2013 7:07:23 GMT -7
I love this amp, but the bass is nearly too much. My sweet spot is with the bass knob between 0-1 on the dial. Anything above 2 is way too much low end. Is there an easy mod to make the bass eq sweep more useable?
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Post by muZician on Feb 19, 2013 8:25:46 GMT -7
what amp? but more important: into which speaker? maybe a problem of amp/cab matching?
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Post by headshrinker (Marc) on Feb 19, 2013 10:05:19 GMT -7
If you've found the sweet spot for you, don't worry about where the knob points. Better to adjust the knobs with your ears without looking than your eyes. As said above with other speakers the extra bass may be needed. It's not uncommon for folks using Z amps to have the knobs pointing in strange directions when compared to what folks are used to with Fender, Marshall, Vox etc. amps.
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Post by jlc on Feb 19, 2013 10:38:07 GMT -7
I have to agree, volume, guitar, pickups, nice to have the ability to EQ each for the venue. So i agree Ears over Eyes
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Post by muZician on Feb 19, 2013 11:26:44 GMT -7
yeah, ears are the most important thing...always! They are the only real help to find the right setting. To cabs: cabs have a natural resonance (a frequency they overemphasize when stimulated with it). Different cabs have different resonant frequencies. If you hit a cab with a hard object (wooden or metal stick) you hear the natural resonance of the cab. Tube amps have relatively high impedance outputs and cannot damp the natural resonance of cabs. If your cab is very resonant at low frequencies it happens that with a little bit of bass from the amp they produce a lot more of that (transistor power amps have low impedance and override the natural resonance of cabs, unfortunately they suck in tone). So with tube amps cab matching is often essential. OK explanation end ;-) trust your ears, cheers frank
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Post by doctorice on Feb 19, 2013 13:15:58 GMT -7
There was a modification to the bass at some point. The guys at Dr Z can tell you when. Check when your amp was made: the letter at the start of the serial number indicates the year.
Why do I know this? I had my amp in for service and had the update performed.
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Post by bikedude on Feb 19, 2013 14:03:09 GMT -7
I've got an oval front, bought it brand new this week. Made in Aug. 11 V26313. Last nite with a ZBest and Suhr Strat, I had the bass off most of the nite. Anyone know if there was an update after my amp was made? Btw, I'm thinking of a 1/12 cab, I know the Z 4/10s are supposed to be the best match, but I want portability. What is the best 12 for this amp? I'm thing gh12-65, WGS ET-65, gk100, Cgold, stk Z 1/12 w V30 . I like clean and tite, and use the pedals for the OD. Thanks.
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Post by hector on Feb 20, 2013 9:42:26 GMT -7
I've tried it with various cabs, various speakers, 1x12, 2x12, open and closed back. Again, anything above 2 on the dial is too much bass. And yeah, it sounds great at 1-2, but it's such a fine range of adjustment, from 0 (off) to 2, makes it hard to fine tune for different venues. From 2-10 on the dial is virtually unusable. This is an older EZG head with the oval front.
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Post by doctorice on Feb 20, 2013 12:01:37 GMT -7
^^^
That's what the mod is designed to accomplish, iirc: provide more "useful" range on the knob.
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Post by Frankie Starr on Mar 5, 2013 12:39:41 GMT -7
A lot of guy's including myself, use the bass knob almost down all the way or close to it.....I always get a fat juicy sound. Like BW says, start with it all the way down, and bring it up to taste as you go. I don't have the mod on either of mine, and a happy camper ! Other things you can try is to get the amp of the floor, even if it's just a little, keep it away from corners, and never back it up close to the wall....just my 2 cents
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Post by waka52 on Apr 30, 2013 9:31:21 GMT -7
Ha! This is funny. Every Dr. Z I've ever owned I pointed the knobs in strange directions that I thought was insane. Finally after wondering what was wrong with me, I quit worrying about it. It seems to sound good on any live recordings we do, for my ear anyway.
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Post by Ridgeback on Apr 30, 2013 12:39:53 GMT -7
I purchased an EZG-50 head right after they were first released. Had to return it after a week because the bass was overpowering with every cab I played it through, even with the bass control fully off. Only Z amp that I was ever disappointed in, as it was one I had really looked forward to owning. Big bottle blackface tone with a master volume built by the Doc. Glad they eventually addressed this with the mod.
Edited to add 8 months after this original post (for posterity) that I just bought a used pre-mod 2011 EZG head and the bass issue is nowhere near what it was on the first one I bought new back in 09. In hindsight, there had to have been something wrong with the first one like a tube damaged in shipping. I can get the bass to be overpowering but only at extreme settings. This one is what I had hoped the EZG would be when I bought one the first time.
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Post by zpilot on May 14, 2013 2:10:03 GMT -7
One of the characteristics of Fender BF amps (which the EZG-50 is supposedly an improvement) is that the bottom end farts out if you get the bass control over 4 or so. It sounds like the Doctor has fixed that and maybe went a little overboard on the first amps.
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Post by mtlrecords on May 16, 2013 12:53:45 GMT -7
This is silly. If you think the amp sounds bad at any setting, then dump it. Otherwise, turn the knobs with your eyes shut until you find the sweet spot and who cares if they are on low or high on the dial
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Post by harry on May 23, 2013 9:22:48 GMT -7
I agree, good point...
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Post by JCM on May 25, 2013 9:03:47 GMT -7
This is silly. If you think the amp sounds bad at any setting, then dump it. Otherwise, turn the knobs with your eyes shut until you find the sweet spot and who cares if they are on low or high on the dial I agree with this post. I'm extremely happy with the EZG 50 paired with the Z 4x10 cab. I actually think this sounds better than my 1966 Fender Black Face Pro Reverb. That's saying a lot.
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Post by zpilot on May 26, 2013 3:43:53 GMT -7
Yes. That IS saying a lot. I may have to go try one out.
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Post by Ridgeback on Sept 25, 2013 15:31:21 GMT -7
There was a modification to the bass at some point. The guys at Dr Z can tell you when. Check when your amp was made: the letter at the start of the serial number indicates the year. Why do I know this? I had my amp in for service and had the update performed. I have an ongoing interest in this mod so I contacted the folks at Z today. They got back to me right away (no surprise) and said the bass reduction mod went into production sometime in 2011 so any EZG 50 with a W or X prefix on the serial number would already have this done. Just FYI for others interested in this issue.
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Post by thecryingstrat on Sept 27, 2013 14:41:51 GMT -7
Mine is one of the first incarnations. Don has been very kind to send me detailed instructions on how to perform the mod. I am going to my tech, tomorrow. Will report back! i love the EZG, it would be awesome+ if i can achieve a little more control over bass.
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Post by harry on Sept 30, 2013 15:09:24 GMT -7
Keep me posted too! Mine is an older version "U" .
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