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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2013 23:33:00 GMT -7
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Post by tjstrat on Feb 10, 2013 6:09:48 GMT -7
It was okay. A little "Alien", a little "Doom", claustrophobic surroundings and hints of gummint evildoings. Better than many.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2013 7:53:38 GMT -7
It was okay. A little "Alien", a little "Doom", claustrophobic surroundings and hints of gummint evildoings. Better than many. Maybe it was the hot blond mind f'n everyone that did it for me.
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Post by El Gato Blackie on Feb 10, 2013 9:20:28 GMT -7
I'll have to add that to my list.
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Post by aslerjack on Feb 10, 2013 9:34:39 GMT -7
I watched it last night, liked it. First thing my kid said was "Doom".
Jack
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Post by tjstrat on Feb 10, 2013 15:19:07 GMT -7
Told ya.
I have a pretty high bar for SF, films or written. Too many threads hanging here for my taste, a little too predictable, but at least there were no zombies. Oh, homage to Cronenberg's "Scanners" with the exploding head thing...
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Post by aslerjack on Feb 10, 2013 15:54:27 GMT -7
I agree on the loose threads and being predictable but I was still entertained for a couple of hours.
Jack
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Post by tjstrat on Feb 10, 2013 17:31:51 GMT -7
Like I said, pretty anal about my SF (having read hardcore for nearly 50 years... Very few movies impress me, and most of those put folks to sleep). Like I said, no zambies, a definite plus!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2013 20:45:30 GMT -7
Like I said, pretty anal about my SF (having read hardcore for nearly 50 years... Very few movies impress me, and most of those put folks to sleep). Like I said, no zambies, a definite plus! I'm a Sci-Fi fan and can get quite anal about it too. My wife can't stand when I geek out on her sometimes. I stood and applauded in the theater when Neo first woke up in the real world. My girlfriend at the time thought I was nuts. The people in the theater were like, WTF??? Yeah this is a decent flick I was entertained, is it a watch 'er again, nah. I rate movies like that sometimes. Could I watch this over and over again and still get a kick out of it. V2... What are some of your favs?
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Post by tjstrat on Feb 11, 2013 4:12:01 GMT -7
As far as reading I'm still stuck on a lot of what I grew up with, Robert Siverberg, Sam Delaney, and ALL the '50s and '60s guys like Alfred Bester, Fred Pohl, Fritz Leiber, Ellison of course. Anyone who was a regular in "Amazing", "Galaxy/If", or "F&SF". I like Connie Willis and Cj Cherryh, William Gibson (there's your whole "Matrix" thing long before the movies started coming out). I'm at the singularity where modern SF and I disconnect... The last new, cutting edge thing I tried was "Accellerando" and it DUSTED me. Couldn't get through it.
Movies? Ithink "Primer" is one of the best pure SF films I've ever seen, but it is dry. Chock full of ideas and gritty reality, but not for people who like action. "Pi" wasn't EXACTLY SF, but it has enough speculative elements in it to qualify for me. Also well done. "Alien" and "Blade Runner" were good, the old original PBS production of "Lathe of Heaven" did a good job on a tiny budget. I haven't been all the way through "Loopers" yet, but that looks like a good recent one.
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Post by tjstrat on Feb 11, 2013 6:21:19 GMT -7
All that said, Fable, I'm not against entertainments. YEARS ago (we're talkin' '71, '72) Baird Searles, who reviewed film for "F&SF" foretold a split between hardcore SF and "mainstream" SF,the latter of which would be more friendly to the noobs (this was when "The Andromeda Strain" had been a best seller and then made into a movie). Most big budget SF will be stuff that's accessible to the wide audience while there will be tiny movies that explore the kinds of SF themes that the dying old schoolers will totally appreciate. I think that Greg Bear's "Eon" would be a SPECTACULAR film, but it would be 8 hours long and cost a billion dollars and leave most people scratching their heads.
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Post by tjstrat on Feb 11, 2013 6:34:02 GMT -7
Now THIS... would be a movie. Until it began unwinding the web of politics, quantum physics, alternate worlds, and all the other concepts that really make the story interesting.
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Post by doctorice on Feb 11, 2013 7:28:29 GMT -7
This Crawlspace doesn't appear to be available currently on Netflix. Where'd you guys find it?
I too am a long-time read of sf. v2leadgtr, sounds like we read much of the same material. I also have enjoyed some of Neal Stephenson's books.
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Post by Stan on Feb 11, 2013 7:49:13 GMT -7
Now THIS... would be a movie. Until it began unwinding the web of politics, quantum physics, alternate worlds, and all the other concepts that really make the story interesting. silly me just spend half hour trying to find info on this movie,
low and behold,
no such move has been made, there is no movie, just this mock trailer ! ! ! ! !
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Post by aslerjack on Feb 11, 2013 8:02:32 GMT -7
I watched it on Comcast OnDemand
Jack
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Post by tjstrat on Feb 11, 2013 8:14:22 GMT -7
Now THIS... would be a movie. Until it began unwinding the web of politics, quantum physics, alternate worlds, and all the other concepts that really make the story interesting. silly me just spend half hour trying to find info on this movie,
low and behold,
no such move has been made, there is no movie, just this mock trailer ! ! ! ! ! So sorry. Shoulda warned you. The book is awesome.
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Post by tjstrat on Feb 11, 2013 8:21:26 GMT -7
This Crawlspace doesn't appear to be available currently on Netflix. Where'd you guys find it? I too am a long-time read of sf. v2leadgtr, sounds like we read much of the same material. I also have enjoyed some of Neal Stephenson's books. I'm in a little bit of a time warp. I like old school SF but so much now is extreme high concept, those dreadful never ending series, or just singularity fiction (Vernor Vinge and similar). I've been left behind somewhat. I still love stuff like "Canticle For Leibowitz" and Silverberg's "Dying Inside" (which would ALSO make a great movie....)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2013 8:38:46 GMT -7
I watched Looper, Primer and Pi before and enjoyed them all. Primer for some was take it or leave it. I got a kick out of it. The time machine a was a bit lame. The power to run such a device would be immense. I was a big fan of Pi when it came out. Tried to get my brother to watch it and it wasn't happening. That fan trailer for EON was cool. I'll have to check out the authors you mentioned.
Mike: A friend had a copy for me.
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Post by doctorice on Feb 11, 2013 8:44:01 GMT -7
I watched it on Comcast OnDemand Jack Thanks. I may be able to access Comcast when up in CT.
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Post by tjstrat on Feb 11, 2013 9:14:02 GMT -7
I watched Looper, Primer and Pi before and enjoyed them all. Primer for some was take it or leave it. I got a kick out of it. The time machine a was a bit lame. The power to run such a device would be immense. I was a big fan of Pi when it came out. Tried to get my brother to watch it and it wasn't happening. That fan trailer for EON was cool. I'll have to check out the authors you mentioned. Mike: A friend had a copy for me. "Primer" is a tough one to follow, but lameness aside, I liked the notion that the discovery of a time machine would occur not in a flash of brilliance... but by complete accident, like the discovery of penicillin, and would take someone with an advanced knowledge of engineering to actually recognize what they had. Very real approach and not a lot of stopping to let you catch up. You either got it or you watched it over until you did. You'll love "Eon" as a novel. A little tough because it opens like Clarke's "Rama" books, but then by God takes off into regions that Clarke could only imagine. Multiple universes, an infinite railway through time and space, hostile aliens called the Jarts... It would be a tough movie to make.
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Post by aslerjack on Feb 11, 2013 9:45:32 GMT -7
Thanks for the book suggestions, just placed a hold on Eon at the library.
Jack
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