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Jazz
Oct 12, 2007 16:56:05 GMT -7
Post by gokfg on Oct 12, 2007 16:56:05 GMT -7
Hey everyone,
I'm trying to get into the jazz scene, can anyone suggest some really good material that would be helpful. I have some basic theory that has gotten me by, but this type of music has been challenging to say the least. the chord/scale progression is awesome work. Thx.
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Jazz
Oct 12, 2007 19:36:17 GMT -7
Post by pappy on Oct 12, 2007 19:36:17 GMT -7
I'm doing the same thing and asked a big jazzer who said the best way (he thinks) to get into it is to get one of the Rod Stewart American Classics albums of standards and learn it. I haven't gone that far yet, but I did type in "It's only a paper moon lesson" in Google and got a great transcription both in a single note formation and jazzy chords. The song is bouncy enough and fun to play so when you're learning the single note version it's a good springboard to the tricky chords. At least they were tricky to me because I think there were two familiar shapes in the whole song. To get the most out of this though, I'd recommend playing with the song, just not Sinatra's version.
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Jazz
Oct 12, 2007 21:03:04 GMT -7
Post by highway61south on Oct 12, 2007 21:03:04 GMT -7
I don't know if you can still get it but I used a Mel Bay intro to jazz book that really helped me alot..........Sterling
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Jazz
Oct 13, 2007 6:04:08 GMT -7
Post by Joey Beverages on Oct 13, 2007 6:04:08 GMT -7
another vote for Mel Bay - books, dvds, etc edit: [glow=red,2,300] Google[/glow] it and you'll get links to: Mel Bay Records - Frank Vignola, Tal Farlow and Jimmy Bruno ;D Mel Bay's Guitar Session - very, very cool - lots of info and, Mel Bay Publications - www.melbay.com
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Jazz
Oct 13, 2007 6:58:17 GMT -7
Post by dei305 on Oct 13, 2007 6:58:17 GMT -7
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gokfg
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Oct 13, 2007 7:25:06 GMT -7
Post by gokfg on Oct 13, 2007 7:25:06 GMT -7
Thanks guys I'm looking into your suggestions. I've also found I need to increase my chord vocabulary, unlike some of the many styles I've played it look as though jazz incorporate much more chord voicing and for lol I haven't even began to touch on the many cool licks. But please! keep the suggestions coming. thx again.
Gokfg
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Jazz
Oct 13, 2007 7:46:53 GMT -7
Post by jimiata on Oct 13, 2007 7:46:53 GMT -7
I have a Mickey Baker jazz book, must be 40 years old now. Great chord progressions and jazz licks. You must be able to read music to get the most from this one. I'm not sure it's still available; check Amazon.
Jim
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Jazz
Oct 13, 2007 18:28:30 GMT -7
Post by billyguitar on Oct 13, 2007 18:28:30 GMT -7
I don't qualify as a jazz player by any means but I have some great fake books for standards and sometimes just sit down and play the ones that I know the melodies of. The best fake book I've found is the Warner Brothers 'Just Real Standards'. Some of the songs have a too modern sound so I do change the chords occasionally on the tunes that my band plays. Just playing those songs changes what I hear in my head and makes me a more musical player.
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Jazz
Oct 13, 2007 20:22:09 GMT -7
Post by (8^D) on Oct 13, 2007 20:22:09 GMT -7
Jazzbooks.com 1000+ Hand-Picked Jazz Educational Materials including Play-A-Longs, Books, CDs, DVDs, and more! www.aebersold.com/ Absolutely amazing educational materials - All kinds of levels and approaches. Can simply learn the songs w/backing tracks or really get into the theory behind the chords/modes/charts. Great stuff!!
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Jazz
Oct 18, 2007 8:24:08 GMT -7
Post by funkyjazz82 on Oct 18, 2007 8:24:08 GMT -7
I play jazz, and I recommend The Fake Book Volume 5, it's an illegal copy, and can only be ordered online, I believe. The best way to learn I've found is just to listen to records of great jazz guitarists and other jazz musicians and play along with them, find out what theyre doing, how theyre doing it, and don't stress over it. Remember not to bend at all, that jazz is all about staccato and legatto, octaves, fancy chords, and polytonic rhythms...check out these jazz albums for reccomendation: The Incredible Jazz Guitar of Wes Montgomery Grant Green-Alive, Green Street, Matador Pat Metheny-Bright Sized Life George Benson-the Essence Mike Stern-Standards Jim Hall & Pat Metheny Jim Hall-Concierto Dexter Gordon-Go Any Coltrane records Bill Frisell w/ Dave Holland Any Charlie Christian records heres the link to buy the fake book: www.ucrestmusic.com/Hope this helped...
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Jazz
Oct 18, 2007 8:36:11 GMT -7
Post by Joey Beverages on Oct 18, 2007 8:36:11 GMT -7
+1 funkyjazz82, you deserve some karma for the Grant Green references - very cool albums. I like 'em. I like 'em alot ;D
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Oct 18, 2007 12:27:39 GMT -7
Post by funkyjazz82 on Oct 18, 2007 12:27:39 GMT -7
I LOVE Grant Green, probably my favoriate player...
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Oct 18, 2007 17:59:14 GMT -7
Post by bluzman on Oct 18, 2007 17:59:14 GMT -7
My Favorite all-time Grant Green is the Blue Break Beats.
fonkay!
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Oct 25, 2007 22:31:10 GMT -7
Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2007 22:31:10 GMT -7
Studied Jazz for 4 years at UM.......challenging but definitely worth the effort.....even if you dont become an accomplished player, you will learn alot about music and the guitar in general. It makes every aspect of your playing improve (time, feel, theory, etc.) As mentioned, the Aebersold books are great and they are what I worked with most learning jazz. The Joe Pass instructional videos are very good, but listen to his albums too. Here are my personal favorites of his:
1) For Django
2) Intercontinental
3) Virtuoso
4) I Remember Charlie Parker
If you are looking to improve your chord vocabulary, check out the books by Corey Christiansen, particularly the Wes Montgomery one. Also, Wolf Marshall has a great series of books concentrating on one Jazz artist at a time, with their best solos and performances. They come with a CD that you can play along with, and also do a great job explaining some of the theory behind the magic. It takes ALOT of work to get even "decent" at jazz though.....the guys that are the best at it work their asses of to do it. Some of the guys I went to school with were simply unreal, particularly the sax players, but they all had one thing in common......they practiced around 5-6 hours a day, and learned ALOT of tunes. Hope this helps!
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Jazz
Oct 26, 2007 15:27:44 GMT -7
Post by Danny on Oct 26, 2007 15:27:44 GMT -7
Another vote for:
1. The Jamie Abersold books/CDs. Very comprehensive for play-along materials. They cover every imagineable style, artist, period, etc. People have used them religiously for over 3 decades.
2. All the artists that FunkyJazz82 mentioned, esp. Wes, Grant Green, Jim Hall. Add also Charlie Christian, Barney Kessel, and Mark Whitfield.
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Oct 26, 2007 19:19:40 GMT -7
Post by garyh on Oct 26, 2007 19:19:40 GMT -7
I recommend the Mickey Baker books (first book especially for basic chord subs), Berklee books II and III for scales in all positions (William Leaviit), and there are tons of books and DVDs for chord scale relationships. I recommend Robben Ford's Beyond the Blues and Scott Henderson's DVD.
Fake books are great. You need to build a repertoire and the Aebersold stuff is great too for play along. These are just from my experience. There are so many resources available online today including forums that will help. Do some searches and enjoy yourself. This quest can be very rewarding.
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Jazz
Nov 1, 2007 9:14:02 GMT -7
Post by funkyjazz82 on Nov 1, 2007 9:14:02 GMT -7
the 5th edition in the fake book series is best, in my opinion
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Nov 1, 2007 9:41:46 GMT -7
Post by zgrip on Nov 1, 2007 9:41:46 GMT -7
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Nov 11, 2007 13:20:25 GMT -7
Post by Chris Rice on Nov 11, 2007 13:20:25 GMT -7
After years of using the 5th edition Real Book I picked up the 6th edition last week. More accurate, better arrangements for on-the-fly use, etc.
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Nov 14, 2007 10:37:58 GMT -7
Post by eliot1025 on Nov 14, 2007 10:37:58 GMT -7
For chord vocabulary, I've heard that Ted Green's books are great.
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Nov 29, 2007 22:36:06 GMT -7
Post by arthur on Nov 29, 2007 22:36:06 GMT -7
Right....gotta have some JA playalongs.
I've been using the Corey Christianson (MelBay) books with students. The Wes Montgomery is a great one to start with. There are many in the series and focus on licks and single note lines
Check out Jazz Harmony by Jimmy Stewart (Cherry Lane Music) for chords, which I edited. Sometime next year CL will be publishing my book on jazz voicings and progressions. Not sure what they end up calling it.
Mimi Fox has a great book on Arpeggios. Get that. Arpeggios are more important than scales in sounding like a jazz player.
Hal Leonard has released legal versions of the Real Book. Get that too.
Oh, and get yourself a teacher!
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