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Post by bluzman on Sept 3, 2007 20:58:09 GMT -7
I've been changing stock 3 way switches on Telecasters to 4 way. I'm wondering if most players are doing this?
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Post by zdogma on Sept 3, 2007 21:22:23 GMT -7
I've heard about it. How does it work and what sounds do you get?
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Post by bluzman on Sept 3, 2007 21:30:50 GMT -7
Well you have three selections with the stock set up... Neck, Neck&Bridge in Parallel and Bridge. With a 4 way you get Neck and bridge in Series... a slightly rounder sound. Here's more info. www.guitar-mod.com/rg_4wayinfo.html
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Post by dixiechicken on Sept 4, 2007 0:24:43 GMT -7
Nope I don't think so. The beauty of the Tele IS NOT a lot of options. It's the fact that it's a real simple effective layout. (IMHO) Cheers: Dixiechicken
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Post by highway61south on Sept 4, 2007 3:18:58 GMT -7
I've never done that but it might be worth checking into.......Sterling
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Post by dixiechicken on Sept 4, 2007 3:39:59 GMT -7
I think there are wiring diagrams for this at Seymour Duncans website.
Cheers: Dixiechicken
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Post by ruger9 on Sept 4, 2007 3:59:00 GMT -7
I changed mine to 4-way years ago... but I never use the position. It just doesn't sound like a tele to me. If I want more of a thick/humbucker sound, I'll pick up a humbucker guitar. Next time I open the tele up, I'll probably put a 3-way back in.
HOWEVER- the new Peavey Omniac JD "teles" have a VERY cool 5-way switch: one of the positions is wired with some caps & resistors to have a STRAT sound... now THAT I would like to have in a tele I think (I don't own a strat, and don't plan too, at least any time soon). I think it requires a super-switch tho.
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Post by dixiechicken on Sept 4, 2007 4:37:56 GMT -7
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Post by skydog958 on Sept 4, 2007 10:02:06 GMT -7
I've always thought it would be more practical (at least in terms of output volume) that the 4 way tele set up have the standard 3 positions plus the Esquire bridge set up (tone control lifted from circuit for slightly more cut).
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Post by rcrecelius on Sept 4, 2007 10:09:08 GMT -7
I've always thought it would be more practical (at least in terms of output volume) that the 4 way tele set up have the standard 3 positions plus the Esquire bridge set up (tone control lifted from circuit for slightly more cut). I had a 4 way in a tele for a while and used that position for slide work...it gave me more sustain than I was getting otherwise. I like the idea of having the "no tone" option and I bet it is do-able with a std 4 way switch. Hmmm...I just remembered, I have my tone control wired for Bridge pickup only...I wonder how I'd make that work?
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Post by thehog107 on Sept 4, 2007 12:58:43 GMT -7
My Kinman Broadcaster set came with a 4 way switch. I liked the unique sound the fourth position gave, very cool.
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Post by billyguitar on Sept 4, 2007 13:45:36 GMT -7
I use mine with bridge, both, neck and neck with a .022 cap for chunking 1/4 note chords in swing. It may be a smaller value, I can't remember what I settled on for sure.
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Post by zimmer on Sept 7, 2007 5:39:31 GMT -7
I use a 4-way switch on my tele. Bridge position at 1 has good twang. 2 is a good mix of the twang and the sweetness of the neck pup. The 4 position is darkest, with the highest output, and some hum reduction, so yeah, it's like a humbucker.
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Post by Chris Rice on Sept 10, 2007 23:42:07 GMT -7
I like 3-way, 4-way, 5-way, 7-way..it all depends on the individual guitar and the player's intended purpose with that guitar.
I usually end up with 3-way in my own guitars.
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Post by dock66 on Sept 11, 2007 6:28:34 GMT -7
3-way switch works really well for me....love the simplicity.
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Post by Buzz Fretwear (Ignatius) on Sept 15, 2007 14:23:17 GMT -7
Tried it, didn't like it. I spend most of my time on the bridge anyway.
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Post by Matt H. on Sept 15, 2007 18:57:56 GMT -7
I setup my custom tele w/ the 4 way. I like it, but if I were to make another tele, I'd just go with the 3 way. It's actually harder to find the neck pickup setting on mine - because it's the second position of the toggle. It's much easier to just flip all the way forward for neck . JMO
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Post by dixiechicken on Sept 16, 2007 5:30:43 GMT -7
I agree with "dock66" - the simplicity of the three-way switch/two knobs - scenario - is a strong point in the Telecaster's setup - let's you concentrate on your playing. Although options are sometimes nice too.... Cheers: Dixiechicken
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Post by Teleman on Sept 16, 2007 19:19:05 GMT -7
I have this mod on one of my teles, I thought I'd use it alot and I did at first but I find I lean toward the standard selections
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Post by bluzman on Sept 17, 2007 9:51:30 GMT -7
I setup my custom tele w/ the 4 way. I like it, but if I were to make another tele, I'd just go with the 3 way. It's actually harder to find the neck pickup setting on mine - because it's the second position of the toggle. It's much easier to just flip all the way forward for neck . JMO A toggle can be wired to swap those two positions.
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Post by Matt H. on Sept 17, 2007 10:19:34 GMT -7
I setup my custom tele w/ the 4 way. I like it, but if I were to make another tele, I'd just go with the 3 way. It's actually harder to find the neck pickup setting on mine - because it's the second position of the toggle. It's much easier to just flip all the way forward for neck . JMO A toggle can be wired to swap those two positions. Thanks - I didn't know that It's something I might consider.
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Post by dei305 on Sept 20, 2007 20:36:18 GMT -7
Hi all, Bill Lawrence shared a 5 way wiring with me. Posiition 1 N; 2 N+B; 3 B; 4 N and B "1/2" out of phase; 5 neck pup with 10% less bass. I also used a 100pf cap with 220k resistor for tone as well as a .047 Sozo for tone pot. Sounds killer especially with Lollars or Fralins. I be glad to forward it to you. Rick
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Post by eschak on Oct 6, 2007 21:54:19 GMT -7
I've done this with a Tele that has a Tapped Voodoo in the Bridge. Don't use the series or 4th position much any longer... I know ther are other tricks with caps etc for another tone..etc.
Another thing That I have done is do a 180 on the controls so the Volume Pot is easier to grab.
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