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Post by Telemanic on Mar 25, 2007 23:52:53 GMT -7
Well, i'm not to often blown away anymore by the next new fangled this or that, But, ....... WHOA! This thing is killin Me!! Since early on, ive been a user of my Peterson VS-1, which once i got used to it, caused me to toss my old tu's and korgs in a drawer. No contest, ... but i play strats or tele's and because of all of the harmonics, wolf tones etc., that seem to come off of various strings, the Peterson was always kind of erratic, certain strings/pick-ups worse than others. I just had to kind of "learn" the quirks, and keep workin it, but i would finally have a VERY in tune guitar. - NOW this Turbo Tuner is amazing!! The display is so readable, and intuitive, in the way they thought to make the circle of LED's that lite up as a group or two, of harmonic content, and then rotate in real time to show flat or sharp. It feels so much like a real strobe tuner it'll make you laugh, I think i actually like it better! The actual Stobe tuners should use this method of presenting the speed info! I have never tuned up faster with more accuracy EVER. I love this thing!
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Post by mward on Mar 26, 2007 5:50:55 GMT -7
Awesome, I've been on the fence about these for months trying to decide if I should get one. Thanks for the report.
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Post by herf on Apr 11, 2007 1:16:03 GMT -7
+1 on the Turbo Tuner. I'm selling my Strobostomp now.
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Post by ke4unr on Apr 11, 2007 9:52:23 GMT -7
I'm not intending to rain on anyone's parade, but I'm not ready to jump ship just yet. Let me tell you why... I had been using a trusty Boss TU-12 for ages. Still have it, on a shelf. Getting older, the needle, note names, etc. were getting harder to see. I'm talking about having it on my pedalboard, not on a bench - different story. So I started searching for a new be all/end all accurate tuner. I balked at the price of a StroboStomp, and then found the Planet Waves Chromatic pedal tuner, which has some similarities to the TurboTuner. Particularly the sweep/strobe LED's. Got it, put it on the board and cool! I could see it from across the room. It locked in on the note/string being tuned very quickly, etc. Then I hooked it up A/B style with my TU-12. What my ears were telling me was right. As slick looking and functioning as it was, it was out of tune. Not by a little either. Maybe I got a bad unit (?). After that, I couldn't find anything else. I went for a StroboStomp and have been very pleased - Teles, Strats, LP's. No problems. I do turn my guitar volume all the way up and mute the other strings when tuning. It's as fast to use as any other tuner I've ever used, but way more accurate. I'll also admit I don't really have to have that kind of accuracy for live use, but I'll take it. Plus it's great for intonating my guitars. So, I do hope the TurboTuner turns out to be the last tuner you'll need to buy! For now, anyway, I think I have what I need. Just my .02 worth. Ray K.
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Post by rcrecelius on Apr 11, 2007 10:08:56 GMT -7
I'm with Ray...my Strobostomp will be a part of rig as long as Im able to lug an amp/guitar to a beer joint!
I have an old Boss tuner that I keep in my gig bag for when I play small gigs with the Mini Z...and I fight my tuning every time! It is such a good feeling to bring out the full rig/pedalboard and use the Strobostomp...it is just so much better/accurate thabn anything else, you just gotta figure out how to use it. Ive discovered in 1 particular club, I have to have my pickup selector in the middle position(hum cancelling) to be able to tune accurately...and that would be the same regardless of what tuner you are using.
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Post by oldgoat on Apr 11, 2007 10:21:40 GMT -7
Ouch! And not even half an hour ago I ordered my Strobostomp. Gotta control GAS... And rcrecelius, thanks for tips on using it.
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Post by mward on Apr 11, 2007 11:28:33 GMT -7
So a tuner that is completely not the model we're talking about doesn't work correctly.
Thanks for the tip though, I was wondering about the planet waves one as well. The turbo tuner comes with an unconditional money back guarantee so if it's off, you can send it back.
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Post by ke4unr on Apr 11, 2007 14:09:27 GMT -7
Just one man's tuner and opinion, that's all. I meant no harm and do apologize if I came off as putting down the Turbo Tuner! I've not tried one. If they were available when I was searching for a new tuner I didn't know about them. Like telemanic explained, the idea of having the rotating "strobe" LED's is a cool idea! And if it works accurately, then I'm all for it. I didn't find that to be true, meaning the accuracy, with the Planet Waves tuner which claims to be a true strobe tuner. Because of that experience, I guess I had a bit of knee jerk reaction about another tuner that looked somewhat similar. And to borrow from telemanic again - "i'm not to often blown away anymore by the next new fangled this or that..." so even the StroboStomp was a hard sell for me originally. I was skeptical about what it could accomplish for as much as it cost. How about this. If one of you that owns a Turbo Tuner would be willing to do an A/B type test. It might help those that are trying to decide. IMO, it wouldn't have to come out 100% perfect for live use. For intonating guitars during setups, that might be a different story. Just some more pocket change, for what it's worth. Thanks, Ray K.
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Post by Telemanic on Apr 11, 2007 14:50:28 GMT -7
Well guy's, my endorsement of the Turbo Tuner is only my humble opinion. But do remember that i AM a long time user of my VS-1 Strobo, and as i stated previously, it was my fave. It is extremely accurate, and yes i did learn how to use it, ie. pick-up selection, volume placement etc. Had no complaints really, other than with MY guitars, certain strings were a little unstable, but overall i found it superior to any previous tuner, and i tossed my TU-12 in a drawer. That being said, i tried the Turbo and found it even BETTER than the strobo. While the strobo has the virtual speed wheels to simulate a real stobe unit, i just find the Turbo's display an improvement, and the unit more stable. I dig it a lot!!
I think one thing to remind perhaps some folks of, is that many guys have never really used a "real" strobe tuner. There are some electronic tuners that claim strobe tuning, but in actuality they simply have a display that simulates a strobe like effect with flashing led's etc. The big difference is the fact that TRUE strobe tuners sense in real time, and therefore the display is quicker and more responsive to your picking force, and you learn to tune up to the peak of your attack (approx.), vs. picking and tuning to the display as it sustains for a few seconds or more, as with NON strobe tuners. Because of this direct sensing, they are inherently more accurate. Hey, if your tuner works for ya, great. But i'd just say if you've never tried a "true" strobe tuner, do it, ya might be pleasently suprised!
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Post by bluzman on Apr 15, 2007 18:12:05 GMT -7
I have the table top Peterson and the stomp box model... My stompbox Peterson is acting weird, the screen kind of dims like the contrast is screwy, but it's intermittent! So I am looking into a new tuner. I really like my Petersons though, but sometimes I have a hard time with the screen depending on stage lighting!
Is the Turbo Tuner a TRUS BYPASS input? I can't seem to find this on their site??
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Post by Telemanic on Apr 17, 2007 11:53:16 GMT -7
Not sure, i dont use em inline myself. They seem to respond to questions quickly, i'd give them a hollar. I cant imagine it wouldnt be tho ya know?
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Post by Hohn on Apr 17, 2007 13:27:44 GMT -7
I've been very pleased with my VS-1 (blue case), even the cheapo jacks haven't been a problem yet.
That said, Telemanic is exactly right about the difference in response to a REAL strobe tuner (the bulky Peterson boxes comes to mind).
The Strobostomp was a big improvement over the others on the market at the time I bought it. I don't find it to be that quirky-- I just hit the 12th fret harmonic and it settles down if need be.
But if my SS ever goes toes up, I can guarantee you that I'll be looking at something like the TurboTuner. I'm not about the replace a perfectly functional SS (I have no gripes with it), but when I have to buy a new one, the SS would have to earn its stripes all over again, and I suspect that the TT would eat its lunch.
As for tuning to the sharpness of the pick attack, that's a separate issue in my mind. String guage plays a role here, as lighter strings tend to have a greater pitch variance throughout the envelope from attack to decay. Another player is the strat "warble" in cases were the strings are too close to the pickups.
The nice thing about a precision tuner is that you can CHOOSE to tune to the attack or to the decay. Not many tuners can even tell the difference, all they do is just freak out the display until is sustains a steady pitch. I tend to tune just a bit to the flat side to help with the pitch increase inherent in fretting a note with higher action. Just a couple cents is all it takes to help even it out.
One odd thing I noticed about using my SS is that it's so sensitive to pitch changes that I can actually see the pitch change on the display just from minute changes in neck tension. For example, reaching to adjust the tuners and not actually moving them, but seeing the pitch change due to the torque applied to overcome the tuner's internal friction. I have Sperzels (love/hate story there), and they're kinda stiff. Hence, you can see the pitch change on the tuner's display without even budging the tuning machine!
So, for intonation and such, you have to rest the guitar on a bench-- otherwise the tuner is almost TOO sensitive and you'll get false readings.
Keep the good reports on the Turbo Tuner coming! Peterson's gonna have to up the ante a bit, it would appear.
JMO
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Post by bluzman on Apr 18, 2007 22:04:14 GMT -7
I took the time to troubleshoot my Peterson Stomp Tuner.... The input jack needs to be replace... fairly easy fix. I'm going to stick with this one as I know it's a true bypass... I also pulled out my old Boss TU-2 and it does thatled strobe thing too!! But I'll probable end up with the Turbo... just because....
I'm glad my wife gave up on asking about the credit card charges at the guitar store!!! That's one good kids... After 25 years of marriage they sometimes learn good things!!!!
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Post by Jan on Apr 20, 2007 20:19:41 GMT -7
I only have the little Korg which is better than nothing. But I realize I need something better. Have been reading this and another thread or two about the StroboStomp. Now there is the StroboStomp2 and the StroboFlip. Decisions, decisions...
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