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Post by guitarstan on Sept 16, 2006 11:31:19 GMT -7
My last wah wah was the standard issue Vox made in the late 60's, lost track of it a long time ago. I probaby wouldn't use one very often if I had one so I dont really want to spend $250+, unless of course there is a reason to spend that much. Are the Boo'teak pedals like Teese worth paying the extra $? I am aware of significant signal lost without true bypass as found in the less expensive models.
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Post by John on Sept 16, 2006 12:38:39 GMT -7
You can get a switching box....it is a true bypass box, and you can hook up a pedal (which you always leave "ON") and use only the bypass box to turn it on. You can get one from Keeley or Loopmaster (loopmaster also makes double loop boxes if you have two old effects pedals....I think they even make a 5 separate looper) The double Loopmaster is cheaper than the single Keeley.
I have the double loopmaster. Works great.
You can also get a Morley wha pedal....they're true bypass. Bad Horsie or Bad Horsie II.
Bad Horsie II is about $125...true bypass and no 'full stomp' to click it on. Just step forward and it turns itself on.
But since the late 60's there are LOTS to choose from.
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Post by Lefty on Sept 16, 2006 13:30:05 GMT -7
Nah, get yourself a Vox RI and convert it to true bypass, stock they sound pretty good. Or find yourself a used Vox RI, and put an Area 51 Italian kit into it and you'll be right as rain. You can get them as a drop in replacement. I hear the Budda wah is good too. I have a Teese Pic Wah, and it's very good too, but I prefer my Vox RI (used Ebay) with the Area 51 kit. It's true bypass and absolutley KILLER! area51tubeaudiodesigns.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=001&Category_Code=cat002Love the Cat Avatar BTW. I'll even through out an invatation to any Z member wanting a killer Wah. If you supply the Wah shell and the Area 51 Kit, I'll wire it up for just the price of return shipping. Here's mine.
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Post by StrangeC on Sept 16, 2006 18:39:17 GMT -7
I have a Budda- they sound good and are reasonable $ as well.
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Post by Dr.T on Sept 17, 2006 1:50:10 GMT -7
I own a Fulltone Clyde Deluxe, true bypass, expensive but great, with 3 different settings. Like Lefty said you can modify with true bypass switch your unit, that's cool: you immediately feel the difference. But pedals, even true bypass is an important feature, I found that suck tone, expecially wha. I agree with gtrman3, I do own a keeley switch, but I think I'll get a D-loop to get less pedals as possible in the chain both if not active and if turned on. Consider that since you have 2 - 3 true bypass pedals in the chain your signal begin to lose frequencies the same.
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Post by Telemanic on Sept 17, 2006 10:34:03 GMT -7
Yes i feel you can get a definate improvement by adding tru bp to your wha. Ive done it to several for me and others. If your familiar with a dp/dt switch its pretty easy to by-pass the stock circuit board BP. Still not perfect, but better. There certainly is quite a debate about tru bp vs. not. Some guy's rigs are dependant on non bp, EJ for example, has some pedals un-bypassed, and others are complemented by the capacitance build-up, to counter the sound of an inherently bright amp. Have to add tho that i have a Teese Picture wha thats really close to the best examples of an original, and better than some, IMHO.
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Post by skydog958 on Sept 17, 2006 11:28:36 GMT -7
I have a Teese Picture Wah and I love it. When I first tried it I wasn't blown away because the other wahs I had before had a similar sound, but the more I used it the more I heard the good stuff in it that was missing from my other wahs. I also like it's simplicity because it's one less thing to have to tweak. I had a Vox wah with the Roger Mayer 9090A mod and I could never get it to sound right even with 12 sweep voicings. Is it worth $250? The quality of build, sound, and function seems to stand up. For your uses, probably not. It's a one trick pony, but a good one.
By the way, does anyone know if the Foxrox FET buffer for the Teese wah (helps when using wah into fuzz) affects the original tone of the wah? could it be turned on and off w/ an external switch?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2006 11:30:11 GMT -7
Ditto on the Teese Picture Wah Skydog.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2006 11:46:53 GMT -7
Skydog, I have seen a Teese wah on ebay with the Foxrox retrofit and the buffer was switchable on or off. Maybe talk to Mike at Analogman and see if he can retrofit a Foxrox into your Picture wah and have it be turned on or off with a toggle switch on the side.
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Post by Lefty on Sept 17, 2006 12:14:45 GMT -7
I have the Foxrox in my Teese Pic wah...no differences before or after...the fuzz just cuts through.
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Post by dock66 on Sept 18, 2006 6:59:34 GMT -7
Fulltone Clyde Deluxe .
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Post by mikek on Sept 18, 2006 7:38:39 GMT -7
I have a Teese Picture Wah and was wondering the same thing about the FoxRox Retrofit. Thanks for the experience Lefty!
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Post by Lefty on Sept 18, 2006 8:34:16 GMT -7
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Post by Telemanic on Sept 18, 2006 8:57:01 GMT -7
Hey guy's , yeah i also have the teese pic with the fox buffer. Works great with a fuzz, gets the full sweep back, and eliminates the yeee-aahhh, yeee-aahhh, occilations when the wahs in intermediate positions. I dont have the switch tho, and i have to say i do hear a little difference. Not necessarily in the wah but in the down line effects. I dont use a fuzz now, and dont need the buffer. I dont like the way my O/D's sound with low impedance on their input. The switch would be easy to add tho with nothing more than a mini dp/dt to interupt the hardwired buffer.
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Post by guitarstan on Sept 18, 2006 10:41:56 GMT -7
kudos to all, great information for me to stew over.
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Post by (8^D) on Sept 18, 2006 11:55:02 GMT -7
Keeley Mellow Wah is really cool. Take a standard Vox or Dunlop wah and get some nice tonal tweaks!
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Post by skydog958 on Sept 18, 2006 17:35:25 GMT -7
Thanks Arun! I'll ask Analog Mike about it when I get the chance.
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Post by guitarstan on Sept 20, 2006 12:01:31 GMT -7
You guys have been really great now we've narrowed it down to only 40 choices some involving surgery and tweak'age, thank you very much. Sounds like I could not go wrong with either a Clyde or Teese wah! I would be happy to get the Jimi H. Voodoo Child sound so which pedal would be a good pic? Keep it simple now remember I'm gettin old and senile.
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Post by dock66 on Sept 20, 2006 12:06:53 GMT -7
Clyde Deluxe has a Jimi mode built in.
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Post by redgl on Sept 20, 2006 12:50:49 GMT -7
You can also get a Morley wha pedal....they're true bypass. Bad Horsie or Bad Horsie II.
Bad Horsie II is about $125...true bypass and no 'full stomp' to click it on. Just step forward and it turns itself on.
It's my understanding that these are not true bypass. An actual switch is required to bypass the circuitry.
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Post by guitarstan on Sept 20, 2006 14:26:45 GMT -7
OK dock now your talking.
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Post by tjstrat on Sept 20, 2006 18:40:27 GMT -7
The Budda wahs are really very nice, too. I had both a Budda and a Teese RMC-1 for awhile and it was really a toss up over which one to sell when I needed fundage. I think I sold the Budda because it would leave me with a little more in reserve if I had to sell the Teese eventually. That and the fact I'd gotten the Teese somehow on ebay for $100.00...
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Post by guitarstan on Sept 20, 2006 18:59:31 GMT -7
tjstrat...BTW I like your avatar subtitle, I've quoted it many times ;D unfortunately it's true. But I have observed a few ovary types to do some powerfully stupid things too ;D.
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Post by jwr on Sept 20, 2006 19:36:00 GMT -7
The Clyde Deluxe is a killer pedal and I'm a real freak about what I'll put in front of my amps. It's close to not being there at all. Jason
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Post by Dr.T on Sept 21, 2006 0:19:42 GMT -7
Agree for Clyde Deluxe.
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Post by skydog958 on Sept 22, 2006 20:10:59 GMT -7
Jimi's wah had some extra bass added in the sweep if I am not mistaken, probably because of the way the low end of the sweep is lost when running wah into fuzz.
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