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Post by RC on Sept 19, 2006 10:30:52 GMT -7
Has anyone tried both the Xotic RC and Klon. I'm wondering how close or similar these are to each other or if there even in the same ballpark.
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Post by Lefty on Sept 19, 2006 13:53:30 GMT -7
Berry-berry diffrnt. The Klon has a nice warmth low/mid thing going on. And the RC is more of an EQ pedal (IMHO) . The Klon is great for OD'ing an amp and the RC seems best to tweak the frequencies. Sold the RC, kept the Klon. I personally thought the RC changed my base Z tone too much.
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Post by Bill on Sept 19, 2006 15:00:16 GMT -7
I can't speak for the high dollar Klon...would love to own one & I'm sure they're fantastic...but I don't. However, I can say I've had an RC for about 3 or 4 years and can't say enough good about this pedal. I go through amps, gear and pedals like water, but the RC has been a constant friend. Extraordinary pedal with all amps IMHO. Right now I'm enjoying it equally with a Stingray and a Rt 66, and to my ears it's quite transparent. I had an AC too, but that lasted about a year.
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Post by guitarstan on Sept 19, 2006 15:09:02 GMT -7
I am warming up to the RC with increased use as well the AC. Moving it around on the pedal board in front of the Keeley compressor then behind it. Still working with it but I am definitely using it more and more and to my liking. Also have an OCD for a different flavor. I am very interested in the Klon but have not researched it as of yet, it does sound inviting.
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Post by Dr.T on Sept 20, 2006 1:22:36 GMT -7
I do own keeley comp that I consider a great stomp, and tried it in different position. I've noticed that with 66 when I engage Fatboost there's no need of compression, comp seems to flatten harmonics, expecially after boost. Even before OCD, it seems to flatten with chords, for single notes it's better because adds sustain but for me sounds worse. So IMO best position for comp is before boost and OD. But since I have 66 I use comp very few times, onlt for some funky rhythm or clean solos.
Guitarstan, why Brando's not moving his hand anymore??
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Post by guitarstan on Sept 20, 2006 6:19:13 GMT -7
He's on strike, according to him I failed to pay him enough. Actually he was over charging me, musicians think they should get paid for "playing" go figure ;D.
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Post by dock66 on Sept 20, 2006 6:43:24 GMT -7
I am warming up to the RC with increased use as well the AC. Moving it around on the pedal board in front of the Keeley compressor then behind it. Still working with it but I am definitely using it more and more and to my liking. Also have an OCD for a different flavor. I am very interested in the Klon but have not researched it as of yet, it does sound inviting. Guitarstan, Glad to see you warming up to RC and AC.These are excellent pedals,I didn't realize how good they are untill I spent alot of time playing and placing them at different positions on the board then I came to realize that I love these .Now,my tone is not complete without them. dock66
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2006 9:54:47 GMT -7
I have both. If you can afford it, get both of them! I think they are very different but can used in very similar ways. Let me explain the way I have been using them. The RC booster has been the last in my chain of effects it is now second last. The RC as Lefty was saying can be used as an EQ pedal but can also be dialed in to be a very transparent clean boost. It's EQ controls are very responsive and can give you a wide variety of boosting. It is not a gain boost, but when combined with a Drive pedal either before or after the RC it can give you a great boosted Lead sound. I have mine set up to be a Clean boost with just a slight amount of hair. So that when I dig in, it hits the front end harder and I get a bit more natural overdrive or lay back and just have my clean sound only louder. It sounds a lot like a Tube Screamer set to high volume and low gain but with not coloration at all of the sound. I love it. I find the RC to be very transparent compared to any other pedals I have played and is meant IMO to be a Clean boost. It does not have a lot of gain on its own. It is meant to hit your amp hard to get the amp to distort with a little help from the pedals gain knob. If you were to run your amp at very cool levels then the gain created by the pedal might not be the greatest and might just give you a very loud clean sound. To create a good drive sound it would need an amp that is working a little bit. You can get a great clean boost at any volume; however, to get it to be a gain boost requires the amp to be working harder. The Klon is an entirely different animal. This thing colors the tone to me, but what a tone! It runs internally at 18volts, so it is a very open and dynamic sounding overdrive/boost. It does color the tone in a similar way to a Tube Screamer but it is still more transparent and dynamic when compared to it. It is not as transparent as the RC Booster. I still have a TS pedal because it is still an essential pedal for me. The Klon can be used as a clean boost because of the huge amounts of headroom it has. It can also be used as a gain boost to fatten up your sound or used to as an all out drive pedal. I have it set so when combined with my other drive pedals I can get a fat singing distortion sound, or more of a fat, singing overdrive when on it's own. I'd say I have it set as a light overdrive. It is very touch sensitive and dynamic. It makes my Maz38 get some very dumble like sounds. It is the pedal that is now last in my chain because it the only pedal I own that has a buffer. A very musical buffer to my ears. So it kind of gives back (very unscientific explanation) some of the highs that I lose with all of my cables by changing my high impedance signal to a low impedance signal. Hope this helps RC. Peace out. P.S. RC I think you should get an endorsement from Xotic. I think the 'RC' Booster was made for you. ;D
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Post by RC on Sept 20, 2006 21:00:18 GMT -7
Thank you to everyone who took time to post a response. I really appreciate you sharing your insight with me. I'm sending a little extra Karma your way.
I got my RC boost about three months ago. While I really like it as an EQ / clean boost I still want something that has a little more overdrive to it. The Klon sounds like a great pedal but before I ordered it I wanted to make sure it's different from the RC. The wait for the Klon is about 8 to 10 weeks so I'll have a couple more months to experiment with the RC, it wouldn't surprise me if I end up keeping both on my board though.
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Post by Strato on Sept 21, 2006 10:04:23 GMT -7
Ive kinda had this same issus, but with a Klon vs. AC Booster.
If this makes since, I want the amout of drive and boost a ts9 can offer, but way better.
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