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Post by nicholas on Sept 14, 2010 16:47:40 GMT -7
I, like most of you guys have many,many....many too many amps. But after my MAZ Jr./ Blue, alot of those amps have a very thick amount of dust on them. Some have to go to make room for Z #2. So for a while I have been reading alot on this forum and comparing both the Remedy and Monza in each forum and taking it all in. I listened to many clips, some from you talented players, some various youtube clips. I'll be ordering one in the next couple days. Either way I imangine I'll be floored. But.....
I think the Remedy wins out. I am just a little worried about clean headroom with the Monza... and the lack of a full tone stack. I find I use a visually strange EQ on the MAZ and kinda want that with my next Z.
I use LP's almost always and am looking for my 'prototypical' Marshall clean. Think Alman Bros. and also my 'prototypical' Marshall dirty tone. Think ZZ top. Early ZZ top, more Tres Hombres rather than afterburner.
I sort of wanted a 1-12 combo and the Monza seemed the logical choice. But as above with the headroom. And lack of tone stack.
Sound like I'm on the right track ? Remedy plus 1-12 Z cab w/ g12h30. I have a V30,Gold,Gt75,and some Mojotone 25's and 30's to try also. Maybe keep it closed back.
Thanks as always for any input. Although I really dig the clips its kinda like ( read this saying somewhere ) like taking a car for a test drive by watching a video.
Ben and Doctrice warned me about the addiction. It is true.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Sept 14, 2010 16:56:10 GMT -7
You really can't go wrong with either amp, but if you're wanting some clean headroom, the Remedy is the clear choice. Then you get the Monza next...
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Post by nicholas on Sept 14, 2010 17:17:06 GMT -7
Yea thats pretty much where I'm at. Go with the Remedy and cab, then pick up a Monza down the road. The Fender Super Sonic will be the first to go.
Will the Remedy with a light OD get to the same places the Monza does straight in?
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Sept 14, 2010 18:33:54 GMT -7
Yea thats pretty much where I'm at. Go with the Remedy and cab, then pick up a Monza down the road. The Fender Super Sonic will be the first to go. Will the Remedy with a light OD get to the same places the Monza does straight in? Depends on the OD but yeah, you can get pretty close I think...
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Post by Ryan (shorty) on Sept 14, 2010 18:53:24 GMT -7
I own a Remedy and have played a Monza and the Remedy wins hands down IMO. I couldn't believe how LOUD the 1x10 Monza was, and that was with a Brake-Lite. I couldn't figure out how to tame the thing and it just wasn't usable for me.
A Remedy with a Gold or a G12-65 is the way to go.
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Post by mtlrecords on Sept 14, 2010 21:24:22 GMT -7
I really like the Monza (head into Z-Best cab) and even the 1x10 and 1x12 combos sound good.
But the clean headroom issue is a valid concern and as shorty mentioned, the Monza, with certain sensitive pickups, can be prone to uncontrollable feedback and sometimes unusable tones (to me at least). Not knocking what it can do. It can be a roaring, little monster of an amp, with ungodly sustain, particularly with a humbucker equipped Les Paul. Just great sounds.
On the other hand, the Remedy has neither of the problems of the Monza. But it also lacks a bit of the sustain and "plug and play" excitement surrounding the Monza. That said, as far as a practical, gigging/recording amp goes, the Remedy (with a few pedals) is way more flexible (IMO) and sounds like it fits your description better.
I don't get how you could need a distorted Marshall tone though- you have a Reeves Super 78!!! I want one of those and the Custom 50 with Power Scaling...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2010 4:08:01 GMT -7
I haven't played a Monza, but I play through a Remedy all the time and since I converted it to a combo, my amp search is over . . . seriously . . . I'm not kidding. I typically play two humbucker guitars, and while I'm not a "tone aficionato", I think this is the right amp for the stuff you want to play.
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Post by nicholas on Sept 15, 2010 15:17:53 GMT -7
I really like the Monza (head into Z-Best cab) and even the 1x10 and 1x12 combos sound good. But the clean headroom issue is a valid concern and as shorty mentioned, the Monza, with certain sensitive pickups, can be prone to uncontrollable feedback and sometimes unusable tones (to me at least). Not knocking what it can do. It can be a roaring, little monster of an amp, with ungodly sustain, particularly with a humbucker equipped Les Paul. Just great sounds. On the other hand, the Remedy has neither of the problems of the Monza. But it also lacks a bit of the sustain and "plug and play" excitement surrounding the Monza. That said, as far as a practical, gigging/recording amp goes, the Remedy (with a few pedals) is way more flexible (IMO) and sounds like it fits your description better. I don't get how you could need a distorted Marshall tone though- you have a Reeves Super 78!!! I want one of those and the Custom 50 with Power Scaling... Thanks for the input. It really sounds like the Remedy is the best fit, but I have been changing my mind between the two every couple hours If I cant decide by Monday, gonna just flip a coin. I know either way I will be happy. And like I said way too many amps already. Much more than my sig. The Reeves is really cool and mine has a loop and power scaling. Also really big/heavy and sounds best with a 4-12 at ear bleed levels. Been trying to get away from that scene.
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Post by nicholas on Sept 15, 2010 16:14:18 GMT -7
I own a Remedy and have played a Monza and the Remedy wins hands down IMO. I couldn't believe how LOUD the 1x10 Monza was, and that was with a Brake-Lite. I couldn't figure out how to tame the thing and it just wasn't usable for me. A Remedy with a Gold or a G12-65 is the way to go. When you say the Monza was much too loud for you, were you using it in a home/recording situation ? Or do you mean with a band also. My MAZ18 is pretty loud, it actually seems louder than a 60w Fender I have. I think its the articulate tone that makes the MAZ sound so loud. It actually has tons of clean headroom. Even cranked it still retains punch. I love that. It just gets louder and louder. Some low/mid powered amps seem to top out on volume quick, then get more saturated and compressed and actually sound less loud. Sort of susprised the Monza being high gain is always refered to as really loud. I was thinking the Remedy might be too much, as its rated at twice the power the Monza is. So you really think the Remedy is more controllable than the Monza ? Thanks for the input, much apprecieated.
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Post by nicholas on Sept 17, 2010 8:19:42 GMT -7
Well I pulled the trigger. Actually went in the other direction. Ordered a blonde/tan Monza 1-12 w/ BL. Really have been wanting a combo, a fun plug and play deal, it will look nice next to my red MAZ head and cab, then down the road I'll get a black Remedy-Zbest. Those clips from Frankie really sealed the deal. I have been wanting one since I first heard them. I need another amp like a hole in the head, every time I play my MAZ I ask myself this sounds so incredible, what do I plan to gain? In this case just that. Gain. Thanks for all the support/help. Nick
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Sept 17, 2010 11:41:35 GMT -7
Well I pulled the trigger. Actually went in the other direction. Ordered a blonde/tan Monza 1-12 w/ BL. Really have been wanting a combo, a fun plug and play deal, it will look nice next to my red MAZ head and cab, then down the road I'll get a black Remedy-Zbest. Those clips from Frankie really sealed the deal. I have been wanting one since I first heard them. I need another amp like a hole in the head, every time I play my MAZ I ask myself this sounds so incredible, what do I plan to gain? In this case just that. Gain. Thanks for all the support/help. Nick Yeah, I'm betting Frankie's clips have sold quit a few Monzas...
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