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Post by parkhill on Sept 7, 2010 20:26:02 GMT -7
Hi all. I'm new to the forum. Pleasure to be here.
I have been considering a Z for some time now. The purpose would be to add a little dirt to my setup. I have a clean tone I already like (Divided by 13 EDT 13/29) so while versatility would be a bonus, I'm really just looking for good overdrive tone out of the new amp.
I have considered the Remedy but for some reason I keep getting drawn back to the Route 66 (I haven't played and don't have access to either). My concern is that most of the videos/sound clips of the 66 are fairly clean. This makes me hesitant to pull the trigger when I would primarily be buying it for overdrive. I'm wondering, could those with experience please compare the overdriven tones to some popular recordings?
Thanks!
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Post by Craigo87 on Sept 7, 2010 21:17:57 GMT -7
I haven't had the pleasure of playing a route 66 either, but this Youtube vid has some nice dirt in it.
I don't think he's using any pedals with it other than a wah for a bit. But I do hear they love pedals, so there is that. I just love the thick rich sound of them.
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Post by parkhill on Sept 7, 2010 21:25:23 GMT -7
Ha Ha. I do love that video. I've watched it a few too many times I must confess.
In the comments the poster actually says that there is a Wah and a SunLion being used. I'm assuming he is talking about an Analogman SunLion. No comments to clarify if he was just using the boost from the SunLion or if the fuzz was going as well.
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Post by kcraig on Sept 8, 2010 12:29:53 GMT -7
The 66 can give you overdriven dirty tones. To my ears the 66 is a thick clean amp up to about noon volume & tones. Afetr that you will get the grind & grit but it will be LOUD!! Lots of the folks use attenuators to drive the amp without bleeding ears. I do not use one. I set my volume around 1:00 and tones to suit my ears and the room. I use a BB preamp 4 knob for my all the time overdrive and use it to control a base volume level. I use guitar volume to go dirty or clean. Step on a tubescreamer for lead boost. I'd say for the type of sound you describe you might need a pedal to push it without killing your ears. JMO. I love my 66 and have never be sorry that I picked it for my first Z.
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Post by skeets1640 on Oct 12, 2010 7:50:45 GMT -7
If your looking for overdrive i suggest a remedy
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2010 12:52:49 GMT -7
The Route can get that early AC/DC sound. I believe I have heard Mike Zaite compare some of the tones out of the Route to Paul Kossoff's tone on Mr. Big (hope I got that right). So there is a wide range of tones in the Route 66. I tend to use a lot of fuzz, but at my last gig I couldn't believe the tones I was getting out of the Route 66 with no pedals and the vol. @ 1:00, treble @ 4:30, and bass @ 3:30. She is fairly loud at that volume. But just by turning the volume on the guitar I had clean to crunch. I believe the Route can get into the Remedy zone but the Remedy can get hotter for sure. It just depends on how hot you want to go. Give a listen to some of Taswegian's album Hypothermia. It was done with the Route 66 all dials at 3:00. drzamplifiers.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=soundfiles&action=display&thread=6433Hope that helps.
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Post by dixiechicken on Oct 12, 2010 15:33:28 GMT -7
DC here! Hey parkhill - you can get pretty overdriven tones from a Route66 listen to Hideaway performed John Mayalls Blues breakers on the Beano album. With Clapton on the lead guitar - you'll get the idea. But it will be loud then - I usually play my Route66 with volume just about dimed - bass & treble at three to four o'clock. Indoors I use my Weber Minimass in the chain to tame the volume. You can go to my website liste to various clips I recorded with my Route. The sections are color coded and explains what I'm trying to do. mbsb.psy.umu.se/clips/clips.htmlThis might give and idea what you can achieve. Cheers: Dixiechicken!
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Post by prspastor on Oct 13, 2010 13:58:54 GMT -7
Also have a look at the Carmen Ghia - creamy overdrive like no other.
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Post by eggman on Oct 15, 2010 21:47:40 GMT -7
Howdy, Recently I had the pleasure of hearing "Stepping Out" by John Mayall & the Bluesbreakers (with a young Clapton using either a LP Std or perhaps his ES-335) for the first time! While Eric Clapton employed a Marshall ( 20 watt?) for this recording, it sounded to me as if a Route 66 would easily get in the same "ballpark" tonally. YMMV.
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Post by The Fifth Column on Oct 19, 2010 15:02:27 GMT -7
Don't forget about early Cream!
I don't know about anyone else, but to my ear with humbuckers the Route 66 easily covers a lot of the first two Cream albums. It has to be turned up loud to do it though for sure.
The Remedy will be truer to that Plexi level of gain if that's what you're looking for. I've never played one, but I was debating getting one for a long time. I got a SRZ-65 instead actually.
Speaking of which, if you want a bit more than plexi, check out the SRZ-65 as well. With good mixes of master and gain you can get tons of tones. If you can turn the volume up it'll do a great live Led Zeppelin tone without even trying. If you then turn the gain up too, well then you're getting quite heavy. Sounds amazing at any level though. It's also a very loud amp, sounds best turned up, but the master volume works great as well.
I own both the SRZ and the 66 and although I love the 66 both clean and dirty (especially with fuzz) the SRZ has become my go to amp for overdrive sounds. It might have turned out the same had I gone with the Remedy instead, but I'm thrilled with my SRZ for sure.
All three amps sound fantastic and unique, but I think they do overlap a little tonally so it might just be a question of how much drive and power you want.
Just my thoughts, have fun,
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