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Post by guitarbrett on Aug 16, 2010 20:58:22 GMT -7
Just got a TIM today and compared to my FD2 Mosfet.
I have really liked the FD for it's smooth, buttery tone. I like the std, FM mode best. However, the CompCut mode is great for goosing other pedals. One issue I have, it robs bass and treble. Sometimes I like that, kinda boxy but smooth sound, but other times, it's just not quite natural enough across the EQ spectrum. Enter the TIM. I spent time adjusting the TIM to sound nearly identical to the FD2 (in the aforementioned mode). However, I then adjusted the EQ from there slightly to basically improve what I have wanted fixed on the FD2. It sounds glorious. The TIM is not a pedal I would use to push other pedals, but with all of its settings (symmetrical/assymetrical, EQ, boost, boost tone), I find it even more flexible overall than the FD2. The EQ really sends this pedal over the top. With the symmetrical clipping setting, I can get it to sound alot like the OCD in the first 40% of it's gain range, but I like the TIM better there too.
I'm still in the honeymoon phase, but wow, really good. I highly recommend the TIM and will probably be selling the FD2 Mosfet real soon.
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Post by countrybilly83 (Ty) on Aug 16, 2010 21:43:55 GMT -7
Very good info...
I picked up a FD2 awhile ago from the BST and it is nice and has its place, hasn't made it to my board but will pry be my throw in the bag OD for grab and go drive things..
I have been looking into the Tim for a bit but haven't been able to play one.... Sounds very much like something I will like though...
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Post by "Z" Steve on Aug 16, 2010 22:17:07 GMT -7
The FD 2 was the first "boutique" OD pedal I bought years ago. I loved it - it sounded great, stacked well with the other pedals I had, and oddly enough worked great with whatever Mike Fuller came out with next. Also, it sounded better at 18 volts as well. But, when my I got my Timmy (and then my Tim), I really heard a difference in tone. I also didn't have my Z's back then (6 years ago) so that really opened things up when my 1st Z arrived. The Tim is just more "amp like" in sound to me and does not favor any particular guitar I plug in - single coil or humbuckers sound great. I do have to say I do not use the boost side of the Tim since I have the Flying Dragon so I can't comment on that. Also, it does stand pretty tall on the pedal board but I work around that easily enough. I do not see myself ever cutting either the Tim or Timmy loose. Jack Zucker of Sheets of Sound has some real nice clips on his website if your interested.
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Post by countrybilly83 (Ty) on Aug 16, 2010 22:58:30 GMT -7
I have been trying to find out more info on the loop that is on the Tim... I can see it being a cool thing to put chorus or delay in the loop to kick it on with the drive... But is it on with the main switch or the boost side?
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Post by countrybilly83 (Ty) on Aug 16, 2010 23:00:37 GMT -7
Never mind my question lol just figured it all out.... gotta love youtube
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Post by John on Aug 17, 2010 4:54:56 GMT -7
Just got a TIM today and compared to my FD2 Mosfet. I like the std, FM mode best. One issue I have, it robs bass and treble. The FM stands for Full Mids. So a boost in mids can be perceved as a loss of bass and treble. The comp cut is a clean boost. (no mid boost) So that may be why you like to boost other pedals with it. I like the FD2 because it's a rather mild OD pedal. My Remedy is already a nice overdrive oriented amp, so I don't need some big time OD pedal. (for the sounds I want.)
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Post by guitarbrett on Aug 17, 2010 14:04:31 GMT -7
FM=FLAT mids Every setting robs bass and treble to me. Sometimes that is useful, especially when boosting other pedals, but for a stand alone OD,the TIM is much more natural in my opinion. The OCD is really a more fair comparison for transparency, but I am using that for mid gain and it will probably stay. I was using the FD2 for low gain.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2010 17:51:51 GMT -7
I do like my FD2 a lot but it's not on my board right now because my moded TS9 can get that sound I want from the FD2 in a smaller platform. Emphasizing the mids isn't always a bad thing.
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Post by 6string on Aug 23, 2010 13:20:58 GMT -7
+1 for the Tim
I've also Just got a Tim, still also in the honeymoon phase but so far it's awesome. super transparent and dynamic.
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Post by guitarbrett on Aug 24, 2010 19:26:55 GMT -7
I really like the FD2 and my TS9 that I modded to 808 specs. They are VERY close sounding when the FD2 is in the vintage/standard setting. The FD2 is obviously more flexible. At this point, I have moved my Crunchbox off the board and am running the OCD as a mid-high gainer. I find the OCD likes to be goosed and the FD2 does that great. The TIM comes after both of them. This gives some big time flexibility that at the moment, I am really happy with
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Post by Scott on Aug 24, 2010 19:41:39 GMT -7
I have a OCD v4 at 18v's... a Open Road... and a Timmy...
The Timmy is my favorite Overdrive. It just sounds better, and I love the controls.
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Post by Jericho on Aug 25, 2010 9:50:51 GMT -7
Definitely agreeing with the masses here, Actually my new pedal board (Under construction) was highly inspired by you guys here on ZTalk. When its ready I'll post a pic. Really, its like a "Thats every pedal someone said they liked with their Mazs. But to answer your question... I started as a FDII > RTO > OCD as all of my gain options (well a '70s earlier as well for some fuzzy goodness). What I found is that a had sonically a really good sounding "color". But unfortunately all I could do is paint with a little brighter or darker of that beautiful color if you know what I mean. My new board went to 3 Fuzzes and 10 ODs. The Tim/Timmy took over early in the chain for what the FD II used to be responsible for. I loved the FDII when I owned it. It was gone the 1st day I played the TIM though. JMHO
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Post by dock66 on Aug 25, 2010 10:24:50 GMT -7
Another +1 for Tim. Both are great pedals,lately I've been using Tim more than FD2.
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Post by jordanbunte on Aug 25, 2010 11:38:53 GMT -7
I'm on the waiting list, and I think I'm going to get one in the next month or two. Can't wait.
My FD2 has been off of my board for a while. I do like the color that it gives, but I really can't say that it's my favorite sounding drive.
Right now, I have a Cusack Screamer V2 and a Barber Half Gainer that get the job done well enough for me.
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Post by teleric on Aug 27, 2010 10:47:42 GMT -7
I've never owned a FD, but I love my Tim. The clipping switches are my favorite feature as they really make for a vesatile pedal (the highs can get a little fizzy when you hard clip the treble side, though).
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Post by guitarbrett on Sept 11, 2010 6:57:35 GMT -7
OK - Update - I decided to put the FD2 and TIM on the board for last night's gig (along with the tasty Analogman Sunface and Crunchbox). I used the FD2 in Mosfet/Vintage (mid hump) mode and it sounded incredible! Really smooth, present, etc. I used the TIM as an enhancer of sorts with a decent amount of grit. It sounded really awesome also. Very transparent. I was able to stack the pedals at will (FD2->TIM->Crunchbox) except the Sunface which I usually run by itself. Incredibly flexible and top notch sounding setup-never been happier.
Oh yeah, I am playing a MAZ Jr NR into a 2x12 partial open back cab loaded with Hellatone 30 and 60).
The bottom line is BOTH PEDALS ARE STAYING ON THE BOARD. They really are very different. The TIM actually compares MUCH more closely with the OCD (which is why I don''t have the OCD on the board). I still think the OCD is fantastic anywhere below 1-2 o'clock on the drive.
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Post by jordanbunte on Nov 3, 2010 11:53:23 GMT -7
Thanks for the update guitarbrett.
I've received a Tim and Timmy from Paul just recently, and I've already sold the FD2. I used to use the FD2 ALL the time, but I really only used the FM/ Std mode and I like the Tim/Timmy much better for what I do.
Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks ya know. They're all really flexible, so I can see how keeping each and using them differently might work well too.
Nevertheless, Rock ON and show Paul C some love. Great guy ta boot!
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Post by jordanbunte on Nov 3, 2010 11:58:36 GMT -7
Also, for the people interested in the Tim / Timmy who might not know....
The circuits are the same; however, there are different values on the 'gain' pot I believe. The Tim is slightly milder (only slightly) than the Timmy because of the 'boost' function on the Tim. The Timmy is slightly hotter due to not having a boost.
I think Paul said that if you maxed the 'gain' on the Tim, then it would be roughly equivalent to 3 o'clock on the Timmy. Not a ton, but I noticed this when I set everything to 'noon' and A/B'd the pedals. I gave him a call and he confirmed that the pot value is slightly different.
Just FYI
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Post by ruger9 on Nov 3, 2010 15:28:38 GMT -7
Don't know how I missed this one...
I had an FD2 non-mosfet and a Timmy side-by-side for months. In the end, I kept the FD2. It could do most everything the Timmy could do, and more. Timmy is fantastic though.
If the Timmy had a similar transparent/less mids/more mids toggle (like FD2's comp-cut/FM/vintage), I would've kept it... I never use the FD2 boost side.
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Post by jordanbunte on Nov 4, 2010 7:09:55 GMT -7
Don't know how I missed this one... I had an FD2 non-mosfet and a Timmy side-by-side for months. In the end, I kept the FD2. It could do most everything the Timmy could do, and more. Timmy is fantastic though. If the Timmy had a similar transparent/less mids/more mids toggle (like FD2's comp-cut/FM/vintage), I would've kept it... I never use the FD2 boost side. Hey, everyone's ears are different (nothing wrong with that). I'd agree that the FD2 can get more sounds, but I almost always ended up in the same spot (FM / Std) w/ drive at 9 o'clock and no boost. Also, the Tim(my) seems easier to dial in by having more control bass and treble vs 'tone.' Definitely not a debate here....everyone has to find what works for them. Now, admittedly, if Fulltone ever made a FD2 in an MXR size box without the boost function.......it'd probably be a permanent fixture on my board. I HATE the footprint of the FD2. Particularly because the 'boost' function never jived with anything I did / do.
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Post by ruger9 on Nov 4, 2010 7:59:35 GMT -7
Now, admittedly, if Fulltone ever made a FD2 in an MXR size box without the boost function.......it'd probably be a permanent fixture on my board. I HATE the footprint of the FD2. Particularly because the 'boost' function never jived with anything I did / do. Amen, brother!
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