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Post by robsocal on Jan 2, 2008 10:46:39 GMT -7
I'm a recent entry to this forum, and I have been impressed with the information and opinions I have read here. So, I'd like your collective advice.
This looks like the year that I will be stepping up to a tube amp. I played through a Z-28 2x10 and a CG 2x10, and really liked them both. The Z-28's rounded, mid-rangy, tone was really sweet, and the CG's punch and bite on the highs and lows was impressive. I play blues, R&B, classic rock. I would like to have a combo amp for ease of use and carry. I play a Tele and a 335 clone. I'd be happy with either, but which one do you think will be more versatile (tone-wise) down the road?
I guess my main concern is that I have been led to believe (possible wrongly) that the Z-28 is more of a rhythm player's amp, and that the CG is better suited for lead playing. I would like an amp that is naturally strong for both rhythm and lead.
Thanks for any opinions you can provide here. Again, I like them both, but I want to select one.
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Post by (8^D) on Jan 2, 2008 11:59:42 GMT -7
Hey! Welcome to the forum!
Of the 2 you mention, I'd suggest the Z-28 for versatility. They're quite different animals (EL84 vs 6V6 - British vs American tones). The Z-28 will do Fender Blackface/Brown Deluxe-on-steriods tones w/the volume and tone stack at moderate settings and roll right into smokin' full-on Marshall tones with everything around 3:00. Can use a more 'American' speaker (Ceramic or Alnico) for Fender tones and a 'British' speaker for more Marshally tones.
The Z-28 has a more fullrange tone (tighter/fuller low end vs. the Ghia). Both have a nice top end.
Would likely give the 'takes pedals well' nod to the Z28 as well.
And, there's no way I'd say the 28 is a rhythm player amp. It's been everything from a solo Jazz style amp to a country chicken picken' amp to a full-on 80's hairmetal amp just by changing the guitar/speaker/couple pedals. There's a lot of weedly-weedly-wee to be had in the country/hairmetal categories. ;D
I would also add, if you're looking for Z 210 versatility options in the lower wattage arena, you might throw the Maz Jr in there as well.
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Post by fishman on Jan 2, 2008 18:59:20 GMT -7
I have no experience with the CG, however, I can say that the Z28 is a guitar players dream amp, not a rythem or lead guitar players dream...any guitar players dream amp. The 28 can do alot of things, but what it can really do is give you a sound that is downright religious.... IMHO, you can;t go wrong with a 28 from everything from Country to Rock to whatever you want to play. Eats pedals and is just an amazing amp....its my go to amp the most now....I knew when I plugged into the 28 and hit that first note that this one was what I was looking for...if it says that to you, then get it...if it does not, then keep looking...
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Post by Joey Beverages on Jan 3, 2008 16:18:55 GMT -7
I've got both the '28 and the Ghia and have both the older style 112 and 210 Z cabs.
I love the '28 with 2x10 cab and a couple of stomp boxes in front - lately, the RC and AC Boosts along with a J-Drive.
I love the Ghia with 1x12 cab - as is - just plug in and let 'er rip! that's my story and I'm stickin' to it ..... ;D
Cheers always, eh
Joel p.s. happy shopping!
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Post by UnclePat on Jan 14, 2008 8:14:50 GMT -7
Oh man...I'd have to agree on that one. The '28 is no rhythm player's amp. Roll those three knobs up to 3PM, plug in a Les Paul and it will show you the best lead tone you've probably ever had without a pedal. I've found this amp really shines (as most do) when your guitar is set up with a treble bleed circuit. Roll your guitar volume back to 5 or 6 and watch it clean right up for funky chord work.
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