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Post by wreckboy on Jan 28, 2010 10:16:48 GMT -7
Aloha, I really was impressed with the demos of the Monza combo.
Just wondering how much will the amp clean up when turning the guitar volume down with the amp set up for highly driven tones.
I hear the "Billy in a Box" tones. How much further with the volume and the drive control go? Great blues and blues rock tones, can the Monza rock out? VH tones and drive potential? Thanks
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Post by doctorice on Jan 29, 2010 13:40:34 GMT -7
Check out bluzman's "what I hear" post in this section of the forum.
I just spent a couple hours with the Monza. It does not do clean at volume, even using the guitar volume control. As a comparison, at the same volume, a MAZ Jr can be set to clean up a lot with the guitar volume. Don't get me wrong: the Monza does not just deliver full-on dirt. It has plenty of range, but that range is bounded.
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Post by draco on Jan 29, 2010 14:32:23 GMT -7
Aloha, I really was impressed with the demos of the Monza combo. Just wondering how much will the amp clean up when turning the guitar volume down with the amp set up for highly driven tones. I hear the "Billy in a Box" tones. How much further with the volume and the drive control go? Great blues and blues rock tones, can the Monza rock out? VH tones and drive potential? Thanks I'll have to agree with doctorice about the cleans...maybe if you just crack that volume knob, you can get a cleanER tone, but any more than that and all bets are off. And as far as rocking out, oh YES...VH and then some. I love heavy music, and I was drooling over the sounds coming out of the Monza.
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Post by wreckboy on Jan 29, 2010 15:07:52 GMT -7
Thanks for the replies ...I'll take your advice into consideration.....Aloha!
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Post by dongiesen on Jan 29, 2010 19:14:20 GMT -7
Sounds like what I would want for a 2 amp 1 clean one dirty setup with a headswitcher
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Post by doctorice on Jan 30, 2010 9:07:48 GMT -7
Sounds like what I would want for a 2 amp 1 clean one dirty setup with a headswitcher Yeah, that would be a great way to go. MAZ is in the shop. When it returns, I'm going to try a dual setup with an a/b box. And 2 Brake Lites
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Feb 1, 2010 1:22:49 GMT -7
Sounds like what I would want for a 2 amp 1 clean one dirty setup with a headswitcher Yeah, that would be a great way to go. MAZ is in the shop. When it returns, I'm going to try a dual setup with an a/b box. And 2 Brake Lites You have to tell us all about this - it could be the way I go. I'm still struggling to get both enough grit/sustain AND enough clean headroom from the Maz without resorting to OD pedals. I adore the sound of a Z well ODed, and don't want to mess with pedals anymore, BUT I need a lot of high volume cleans as well, and don't have time to mess with amp settings live, so if this 2 amp setup works, I might just have to go that route. This is a good excuse to buy a Monza, don't you think Cheers Pete
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Post by draco on Feb 1, 2010 5:19:59 GMT -7
Yeah, that would be a great way to go. MAZ is in the shop. When it returns, I'm going to try a dual setup with an a/b box. And 2 Brake Lites You have to tell us all about this - it could be the way I go. I'm still struggling to get both enough grit/sustain AND enough clean headroom from the Maz without resorting to OD pedals. I adore the sound of a Z well ODed, and don't want to mess with pedals anymore, BUT I need a lot of high volume cleans as well, and don't have time to mess with amp settings live, so if this 2 amp setup works, I might just have to go that route. This is a good excuse to buy a Monza, don't you think Cheers Pete If you need high volume cleans, I don't think the Monza is what you're looking for, unfortunately. The cleans just aren't there.
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Post by mtlrecords on Feb 1, 2010 7:37:42 GMT -7
EZG 50 and the Monza could be a great pair. The Monza is 20 watts, but they are 20 Dr. Z watts, so you know they can hang in there with the clean stage volume of the EZG 50. I am planning on trying this setup down the road. Right now I am experimenting with an A/B setup of the EZG-50 and an SRZ-65- sounds insanely good. I will be buying the SRZ (I have one on loan right now) first and Monza next.
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Feb 1, 2010 8:27:33 GMT -7
EZG 50 and the Monza could be a great pair. The Monza is 20 watts, but they are 20 Dr. Z watts, so you know they can hang in there with the clean stage volume of the EZG 50. I am planning on trying this setup down the road. Right now I am experimenting with an A/B setup of the EZG-50 and an SRZ-65- sounds insanely good. I will be buying the SRZ (I have one on loan right now) first and Monza next. Tell me, can you run 2 heads into a single cab? I've always used single combos live, but am seriously considering a 2x head 1x cab setup with Maz18 and Monza, but have no idea how to do this. Cheers Pete
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Post by stratovarius on Feb 1, 2010 9:03:22 GMT -7
You need a specialized head switcher to do that.
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Post by Mostrummer on Feb 1, 2010 10:33:59 GMT -7
You need a specialized head switcher to do that. I want to do the same with a Monza head and MAZ38 2x12 w/blues and Brakelite. Tone bone makes a switcher for this: www.tonebone.com/tb-headbone-vt.htmIt also switches the guitar signal from one amp to the other. Pricey, but super cool.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Feb 1, 2010 11:06:23 GMT -7
EZG 50 and the Monza could be a great pair. The Monza is 20 watts, but they are 20 Dr. Z watts, so you know they can hang in there with the clean stage volume of the EZG 50. I am planning on trying this setup down the road. Right now I am experimenting with an A/B setup of the EZG-50 and an SRZ-65- sounds insanely good. I will be buying the SRZ (I have one on loan right now) first and Monza next. Tell me, can you run 2 heads into a single cab? I've always used single combos live, but am seriously considering a 2x head 1x cab setup with Maz18 and Monza, but have no idea how to do this. Cheers Pete I've been doing this for a couple years with my Maz Jr and a couple of other amps. Right now it's the Jr and the Remedy, but it matters not which heads you use. The Headbone is a great unit.
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Post by mtlrecords on Feb 1, 2010 17:08:48 GMT -7
You can use the Headbone which is great, or run each amp into a single stereo cabinet (Marshall 1936 2x12 is what I use) which is less stuff to carry for me.
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Post by draco on Feb 1, 2010 20:49:59 GMT -7
You have to tell us all about this - it could be the way I go. I'm still struggling to get both enough grit/sustain AND enough clean headroom from the Maz without resorting to OD pedals. I adore the sound of a Z well ODed, and don't want to mess with pedals anymore, BUT I need a lot of high volume cleans as well, and don't have time to mess with amp settings live, so if this 2 amp setup works, I might just have to go that route. This is a good excuse to buy a Monza, don't you think Cheers Pete If you need high volume cleans, I don't think the Monza is what you're looking for, unfortunately. The cleans just aren't there. I'm just throwing myself under the bus for not realizing that you were talking about the 2 amp situation there, and obviously not using the Monza for cleans...that's what I get for trying to reply at 7 in morning.
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Feb 2, 2010 1:39:26 GMT -7
If you need high volume cleans, I don't think the Monza is what you're looking for, unfortunately. The cleans just aren't there. I'm just throwing myself under the bus for not realizing that you were talking about the 2 amp situation there, and obviously not using the Monza for cleans...that's what I get for trying to reply at 7 in morning. HAHA! done that a few times -usually at somewhere past midnight over here! I sort of guessed you hadn't read the whole post, but try and avoid that bus - it can ruin your whole day Cheers Pete
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Feb 2, 2010 1:42:35 GMT -7
Thanks guys. Checked out the Headbone site, and they look like just the ticket! Unfortunately I'd have to trade in my Maz Combo for a head only; then get a cab and a Monza head.......... Just thinking, is there any way to use the combo speaker with the Maz and a Monza head? (I have a 1x12 with a G12H30).
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Pete
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Post by Mostrummer on Feb 2, 2010 6:21:53 GMT -7
Thanks guys. Checked out the Headbone site, and they look like just the ticket! Unfortunately I'd have to trade in my Maz Combo for a head only; then get a cab and a Monza head.......... Just thinking, is there any way to use the combo speaker with the Maz and a Monza head? (I have a 1x12 with a G12H30). Cheers Pete The headbone should work the same with a combo/head mixture (if the cables are long enough). Its what I plan on doing. Btw, I checked ebay for headbones this morning and there's one for around $210 (claims its unused)!.
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Feb 2, 2010 10:25:05 GMT -7
Thanks guys. Checked out the Headbone site, and they look like just the ticket! Unfortunately I'd have to trade in my Maz Combo for a head only; then get a cab and a Monza head.......... Just thinking, is there any way to use the combo speaker with the Maz and a Monza head? (I have a 1x12 with a G12H30). Cheers Pete The headbone should work the same with a combo/head mixture (if the cables are long enough). Its what I plan on doing. Btw, I checked ebay for headbones this morning and there's one for around $210 (claims its unused)!. Hey cool! So I'll check out the Monza head through a 1x12 G12H30 By the time I got that Headbone shipped over here, I'd be just as well buying new Cheers Pete
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Post by stratovarius on Feb 2, 2010 12:28:53 GMT -7
On the other hand, you could just bite the bullet and haul two combos around. That way you could be more selective on your speaker choices. Instead of a head switcher you'd want to get an A/B switch or a blender. (Am I a bad person?)
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Post by Pete aka shouldb on Feb 4, 2010 10:51:50 GMT -7
On the other hand, you could just bite the bullet and haul two combos around. That way you could be more selective on your speaker choices. Instead of a head switcher you'd want to get an A/B switch or a blender. (Am I a bad person?) That you are, stratovarius, that you are!! Here's me trying to save pennies, and back muscles, and there's you encouraging me to do what I really want to do anyway!!
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Post by Jaguarguy (Mike) on Feb 4, 2010 15:01:47 GMT -7
[quote author=shouldb board=monza thread=28736 post=336182 Pete The headbone should work the same with a combo/head mixture (if the cables are long enough). Its what I plan on doing. Btw, I checked ebay for headbones this morning and there's one for around $210 (claims its unused)!. [/quote] I use a Tonebone VT with my EZG50 and a Z-28 4x10 Combo - works great
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