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Post by jwr on Aug 3, 2007 13:19:46 GMT -7
I just picked up a RT66 from a forum member, bilbal. I think the description of the amp being milk shake thick is about as accurate a description as I've ever heard. Played it thru my Z-Best cab with a band a couple of days ago and WOW. Used a Strat all night, never even plugged in my LP, although I wished I had just for fun. I just can't get over how dynamic and touch sensitive it is. This is an amp that everyone should check out at least once. Takes pedals so well. Very defined sound, even in the huge low end that it has, it doesn't get muddy. With a KoT in front I could turn it into a fire breathing dragon! This amp, right next to my Maz Sr., is about the most fun piece of gear I've had the pleasure playing. I must add a thanks to taswegian for his clips of this amp, it definitely sent to my nearest Z dealer to check one out. Thanks buddy! Jason
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Post by dixiechicken on Aug 3, 2007 15:38:41 GMT -7
Congrats on the Route-66. Can't wait 'til I get mine. (should arrive in August hopefully ) Cheers: Dixiechicken
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Post by taswegian on Aug 3, 2007 19:35:10 GMT -7
I must add a thanks to taswegian for his clips of this amp, it definitely sent to my nearest Z dealer to check one out. Thanks buddy! Jason No problem Jason, glad you're diggin' the 66! If the 66 were a religion, I'd definitely be an evangalist ;D I bet it sounds KILLER with the KOT and I have a feeling you will love the Lester into it big time! I agree, everyone needs to try one. As with all great amps, speakers/cabs are the key to finding the tones that suit you. The Zbest is a beauty! I also have a Ulbrick 1-12 with a custom Celestion Heritage speaker (V35) which is kinda like a tamed Vintage 30 or a greenback with tighter bottom end. Works great. I'd next love to get a new Dr Z convertable 1-12 with a Gold, and then I'd be set. DC, your time is comin'! I've heard the 230V trannie makes it even more vintage Marshall! ;D (mine is 110, I just use a step down) My friend has one of those MEGA expensive Matchless footcontrolled preamps. Two channels. He's loaned it to me to play around with and I'm going to give it a go at my gig tonight.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2007 1:26:05 GMT -7
My how I envy you! My first taste of Z's came in the form of my Jr., and now I have almost saved up enough money to buy me a Route 66!
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Post by dixiechicken on Aug 4, 2007 4:27:28 GMT -7
Hey "Tas"! That's bound to be exciting since I have never really like Marshalls. Especially the never ones, way to manny knobs and channels. Maybe it's just the closed cabs that don't agree with me. Fortunately I ordered the open back 2x10" to go with it. ;D I spend way too much time daydreaming about my Route-66. Cheers: Dixiechicken
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Post by jwr on Aug 4, 2007 8:49:34 GMT -7
Haven't tried the 66 with my Z 2X10. I'll give it a try and let ya know what I think. Unforunately I have to use an Airbrake with it but I'll give ya my 2 cents worth on how it sounds. Jason
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Post by dixiechicken on Aug 4, 2007 9:36:51 GMT -7
Great Jason!
Appreciate that.
If I can get my playing together enough not to make a fool of myself, I'' try to post some clips, eventually.
Cheers: Dixiechicken
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Post by jwr on Aug 4, 2007 12:12:41 GMT -7
Well, I gave the 2X10's a try. It's a very nice sound. A lot less volume compaired to the Z-Best cab. I actually run my 2X10 and 1X12 cabs together with a speaker "Y" cable and it still isn't as loud as the Z-Best. The 2X10's are very rich and full with a tight bottom end. Seems to further extend the "milkshake" quality's of the 66. I"m really digging the sound of this speaker and amp configuration. I must admit that I'm a little surprised how much I liked the 2 together. Especially after hearing all the praises for the Z-Best and Route 66 combination, which I like a lot too, but is quite loud. The 2X10 cab seems to be a really good match for the 66. Tas I with ya on the new Z convertable cab. At first I wanted to get one along with a Ghia and put a Alnico Blue in there, but I may try a Gold or some other speaker that could handle the 66 as well. Having the 1X12 may be the best way to tame the beast along with my Air Brake.
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Post by dixiechicken on Aug 4, 2007 12:32:37 GMT -7
Jason! Thanks for the input - now I'm looking forward more than ever to this combination. One of the reasons I settled on the 2x10" cab, was to try to cut down volume a bit. ( even if the primary reason was a money decision ) Thanks for the input - have a god weekend. Cheers: Dixiechicken
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Post by zdogma on Aug 4, 2007 13:36:55 GMT -7
I really like the 2 10 as well. I have a weber alnico ten and an Eminence little buddy, I tried 4 or 5 combinations before arriving at this one, and it sounds great. I also like the silver and blue together, but the Eminence with the hemp cone and big magnet has really tightened up the bottom end, the Weber does the rest.
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Post by taswegian on Aug 4, 2007 20:24:55 GMT -7
Tas I with ya on the new Z convertable cab. At first I wanted to get one along with a Ghia and put a Alnico Blue in there, but I may try a Gold or some other speaker that could handle the 66 as well. Having the 1X12 may be the best way to tame the beast along with my Air Brake. Well, I'm actually maxing out with my 1-12/Route 66 on my regular Sat night gig so I'm thinking the Gold being much more efficient than my 97db custom speaker would do the trick. Then I'd have the Ulbrick for smaller, less filled gigs, then the Gold, and then the Z Best. I'm also hoping to get another Z amp shortly so an extra cab would be cool. I really should sell my Airbrake. I never use it.
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Post by jwr on Aug 5, 2007 11:34:51 GMT -7
You never use your Air Brake? Wow! I've got a couple of Scumback Greenback's on the way. A 75hz and a 55hz. I'm hoping the lower efficiency rating is gonna lower the overall volume enough so that I can crank it and get all the goods from the amp. It sounds like you've got a good thing goin there tas. So what's the next Z gonna be for ya?
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Post by taswegian on Aug 5, 2007 16:35:20 GMT -7
Well, the Ulbrick cab has a 35 watt 97db speaker so it is really inefficient. And one speaker is less volume than two of course. It pretty much gets as loud as it will at 12 oclock and after that it just breaks up more with very little apparent volume increase. It's still loud in an empty room but WAY less loud than the Z best. I probably should be using my Z best at the Sat gig but give a guy an inch... ;D I took it in two weeks ago and LOVED it but I did get very loud. I love pushing that cab! So I figure a 1-12 Gold would fit nicely in-between and give me a little more headroom for the gigs that require it.
The scumbags should be great.
Next amp? Well there in lies the rub! Still no idea. I can see advantages to so many different models. At this point it's looking like the RXES jr as I really need an amp to run in stereo with the 66 for my Police gig. And a sweet clean and low wattage amp would be very useful. But I'm also looking at a Ghia, Mazerati GT, 6545, RXES, SRZ65 or even a 'Ray.
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Post by jwr on Aug 5, 2007 17:30:01 GMT -7
I'm really excited to try the Scumbacks, should sound good with the 66, but I've been wrong before....it's such a crap shoot with speakers. We'll see. I'm reall interested to hear some reports on the Gold with a 66 cause I'm sure it won't suck!
I really like my Maz Sr. Out of all the amps that I've played, and the ones that I currently own, it may be the sweetest clean sound I've ever heard. I'm thinking the Route 66 and Maz Sr might be the ultimate 2 amp rig, especially with all the various tones a Sr has in it. Along with the very smooth reverb and huge, huge low end it matches up very well with the 66. I could see how a Ghia and the 66 would be a great combination as well. Especially with both of 'em cranked. You mentioned a sweet clean and low wattage amp, the Sr. isn't low wattage, but the master volume on that amp is outstanding, seriously. It can do nice Vox, Fender Super, and Marshall Plexi tones depending on how you set the amp. And that Master volume has a lot to do with how the amp sounds and getting all those tones. It's possibly Z's most versatile amp.
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Post by taswegian on Aug 5, 2007 18:08:15 GMT -7
Ha! You're not the first guy to throw the Maz 38 at me! For whatever reason it's probably the last one I think of... Most of the clubs I play down here in Tassie are really just small pubs. That doesn't mean I don't get loud as I play in fairly loud bands and there is a HUGE difference between playing in a room packed with people and a room mostly empty. We rarely mike anything but kick and vocals so you still gotta be able to get above the crowd. It would be handy for those gigs that I know won't fill up, (like midweek original gigs) to have something that I can still work without getting too loud, hence the thinking of a 15 watt RXES jr. Plus it will work well in stereo as I need a sweet clean sound but not very loud for the Police gig. With the overdose it may work for some of my rock gigs. Not sure. The Ghia would probably work well for all that also. It's so frustrating not being able to test drive these amps. I'm sure I'd get a MUCH better idea of what I wanted and what would work best. The Maz 38 may be too BIG in stereo with the 66, which would be one of my concerns. but I'm sure it would be handy on it's own. I tried to use the Z28 and 66 in stereo on one of my original gigs. Sounded beautiful clean but was too big and loud with both cranked up, so I just played the Z-28 first set and the 66 second and third! ;D But the Maz 38 is a definite option I should consider.
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Post by groovergeorge on Aug 5, 2007 18:38:07 GMT -7
Ha! You're not the first guy to throw the Maz 38 at me! For whatever reason it's probably the last one I think of... Most of the clubs I play down here in Tassie are really just small pubs. That doesn't mean I don't get loud as I play in fairly loud bands and there is a HUGE difference between playing in a room packed with people and a room mostly empty. We rarely mike anything but kick and vocals so you still gotta be able to get above the crowd. It would be handy for those gigs that I know won't fill up, (like midweek original gigs) to have something that I can still work without getting too loud, hence the thinking of a 15 watt RXES jr. Plus it will work well in stereo as I need a sweet clean sound but not very loud for the Police gig. With the overdose it may work for some of my rock gigs. Not sure. The Ghia would probably work well for all that also. It's so frustrating not being able to test drive these amps. I'm sure I'd get a MUCH better idea of what I wanted and what would work best. The Maz 38 may be too BIG in stereo with the 66, which would be one of my concerns. but I'm sure it would be handy on it's own. I tried to use the Z28 and 66 in stereo on one of my original gigs. Sounded beautiful clean but was too big and loud with both cranked up, so I just played the Z-28 first set and the 66 second and third! ;D But the Maz 38 is a definite option I should consider. "But the Maz 38 is a definite option I should consider." You are free to give my maz Invasion a test drive when you come up here as well Tas. The differences between the maz Sr and invasion models are quite subtle with the invasion have slightly less gain i'm told. Theres always the Ghia as well ;D
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Post by taswegian on Aug 5, 2007 19:42:18 GMT -7
Ha! You're not the first guy to throw the Maz 38 at me! For whatever reason it's probably the last one I think of... Most of the clubs I play down here in Tassie are really just small pubs. That doesn't mean I don't get loud as I play in fairly loud bands and there is a HUGE difference between playing in a room packed with people and a room mostly empty. We rarely mike anything but kick and vocals so you still gotta be able to get above the crowd. It would be handy for those gigs that I know won't fill up, (like midweek original gigs) to have something that I can still work without getting too loud, hence the thinking of a 15 watt RXES jr. Plus it will work well in stereo as I need a sweet clean sound but not very loud for the Police gig. With the overdose it may work for some of my rock gigs. Not sure. The Ghia would probably work well for all that also. It's so frustrating not being able to test drive these amps. I'm sure I'd get a MUCH better idea of what I wanted and what would work best. The Maz 38 may be too BIG in stereo with the 66, which would be one of my concerns. but I'm sure it would be handy on it's own. I tried to use the Z28 and 66 in stereo on one of my original gigs. Sounded beautiful clean but was too big and loud with both cranked up, so I just played the Z-28 first set and the 66 second and third! ;D But the Maz 38 is a definite option I should consider. "But the Maz 38 is a definite option I should consider." You are free to give my maz Invasion a test drive when you come up here as well Tas. The differences between the maz Sr and invasion models are quite subtle with the invasion have slightly less gain i'm told. Theres always the Ghia as well ;D That sounds like fun! wonder if I can trust the airlines with a 66 in it's roadcase? Mmm. Looks like I'm up there from the 27th of Sept to the 9th of Oct. Ah, I can almost smell the fragapanni's (even though I've never been there ;D)
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Post by taswegian on Aug 5, 2007 19:48:19 GMT -7
Hey Groover, you just became a Big Kahuna! Congrats.
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Post by groovergeorge on Aug 5, 2007 22:57:19 GMT -7
Thanks Jaye, yeh I really feel like part of the furniture on this forum now. Like the Doc's amps,pretty addictive really. I'd love to check out the 66' but don't blame you for not bringing it up in case it gets smashed up. The way I'm going I'll probably have another "Z" before you get here. ;D
The Frangipan'is won't be quite in flower by then unless you come up a little later.
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Post by jwr on Aug 7, 2007 8:01:03 GMT -7
Groover, ya really need to try a 66, especially if your lovin' your Z-28. I used to own one and I would think those 2 amps would sound great together.
Tas, it's too bad ya can't get your hands on these amps. If your ever in NY, myself and a couple other Z bro's I know around here can get you set up.
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