yup
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Post by yup on Aug 7, 2006 9:19:19 GMT -7
Any comments or are Humbuckers the pup of choice with the 66?
Thanks, Mike
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Post by Curt on Aug 7, 2006 9:31:26 GMT -7
All I play are Teles and Strats with mine, I love it.
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Post by prowler on Aug 7, 2006 9:45:58 GMT -7
Playing the 66 with "buckers" will make it break up a bit sooner. That being said I only play humbuckers so my opinion is biased
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Post by John on Aug 7, 2006 10:00:59 GMT -7
I use both a strat and a Les Paul. The good thing about the 66 is it lets the natural characteristics of an individual instrument come through. If you're blazing with a dual rectifier, chances are you're not going to hear much difference in different guitars....especially humbuckers.
But the 66 will let a strat sound like a strat and a humbucker sound like a humbucker. I know this sounds stupid, but I can't think of another way of making the point.
The 66 is so fat that the strat doesn't sound too thin. If you want to play basic cover tunes (classic rock and the such), you can't be too thin in your strat sound. Nice multi-purpose sound.
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Post by yup on Aug 8, 2006 15:13:48 GMT -7
Thanks for the info. =)
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Post by Phil (aka Phil) on Aug 11, 2006 4:24:12 GMT -7
My maple fretboarded Strat with Fralin Vintage Hots through the 66 and a Z-Best does a *killer* Wind Cries Mary sound. And a lot more.
PDW
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Post by drew on Aug 11, 2006 7:38:42 GMT -7
I play a rosewood strat with kinman blues and am very happy with the tones from my 66. I'm also using a BB and Sparkle drive for OD and boost. I rarely breakout the LP. Although with my current playing situation (band that is) I'm using a Ghia 95% of the time. Hope this helps.
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Post by yup on Aug 11, 2006 8:15:23 GMT -7
I play a rosewood strat with kinman blues and am very happy with the tones from my 66. I'm also using a BB and Sparkle drive for OD and boost. I rarely breakout the LP. Although with my current playing situation (band that is) I'm using a Ghia 95% of the time. Hope this helps. Drew, Are you mainly using the Ghia for volume related reasons? How does the Ghia compare with the 66? Thanks, Mike
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Post by Curt on Aug 11, 2006 8:24:01 GMT -7
I play a rosewood strat with kinman blues and am very happy with the tones from my 66. I'm also using a BB and Sparkle drive for OD and boost. I rarely breakout the LP. Although with my current playing situation (band that is) I'm using a Ghia 95% of the time. Hope this helps. Drew, Are you mainly using the Ghia for volume related reasons? How does the Ghia compare with the 66? Thanks, Mike Well I'm not Drew, but I have an opinion here. Most will disagree I'm sure but... To me a 66 is the Ghia's bigger, stronger, fatter Big Brother. They are both very simple, very unique Z amps and my two favorites. If you have a ghia for smaller gigs and a Route for larger ones you should be in blues, Blues Rock, Country, Roots music heaven IMO. Let the blasting start
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Post by guitarman1 on Aug 11, 2006 12:14:35 GMT -7
Drew, Are you mainly using the Ghia for volume related reasons? How does the Ghia compare with the 66? Thanks, Mike Well I'm not Drew, but I have an opinion here. Most will disagree I'm sure but... To me a 66 is the Ghia's bigger, stronger, fatter Big Brother. They are both very simple, very unique Z amps and my two favorites. If you have a ghia for smaller gigs and a Route for larger ones you should be in blues, Blues Rock, Country, Roots music heaven IMO. Let the blasting start Curt, I need something for Polkas.
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Post by kledbet on Aug 11, 2006 17:44:33 GMT -7
For Polkas maybe a nice Crate :-) just kidding
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Post by drew on Aug 20, 2006 9:33:44 GMT -7
Drew, Are you mainly using the Ghia for volume related reasons? How does the Ghia compare with the 66? Thanks, Mike Hey Mike, Sorry for the delayed response. It's been busy on the home front so I've not had enough time on the board! To answer your question, yes volume is a gig part of the reason for using the ghia. Plus, for a lot of small short gigs I just use the guitar and ghia gives up the goods quicker and the music calls for the el84 chime. If I use my effects board I like the 66, so I can get the gain needed at a lower volume. I like Curts comparison and will have to do some more a/b'ing! ;D My ears hear the difference in the el84s and KT66s. They are Z amps and comparisons to other amps is only for reference reasons but I think of the ghia as a sweet fender/vox tone but nicer and the 66 as my marshall/fender tone but that's not fair either as the 66 rocks! (just to be clear it's not a mesa gain animal. It's a rock monster with great sensitivity.) Mike, Hope this helps and sorry if it is feeding your 66 gas even more!
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Post by Dr.T on Sept 8, 2006 8:19:24 GMT -7
I play my Strat Deluxe with Voodoo PU and my Tele 62 reissue. I agree with gtrman3, this amp make your guitar singing as it must, with his own voice and his harmonics. So, differences in volume, saturation, upper frequencies between different guitars are the logic consequences of an amp that doesn't suck tone. Bad amps doesn't make that difference and that's because sometimes I hear people disappointed with this jewels, they hear like they didn't have before and they find theyr guitar limts or they're own limits for example with ghost notes. I hope I will soon get some humbucker lady (Les Paul....) to feel the different character.
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Post by Laroosco!! on Sept 10, 2006 19:29:22 GMT -7
Drew, Are you mainly using the Ghia for volume related reasons? How does the Ghia compare with the 66? Thanks, Mike Well I'm not Drew, but I have an opinion here. Most will disagree I'm sure but... To me a 66 is the Ghia's bigger, stronger, fatter Big Brother. They are both very simple, very unique Z amps and my two favorites. If you have a ghia for smaller gigs and a Route for larger ones you should be in blues, Blues Rock, Country, Roots music heaven IMO. Let the blasting start I agree. The Ghia and the 66 have a lot more in common IMO than the 66 and the Z28.
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Post by taswegian on Sept 10, 2006 21:37:49 GMT -7
Well I'm not Drew, but I have an opinion here. Most will disagree I'm sure but... To me a 66 is the Ghia's bigger, stronger, fatter Big Brother. They are both very simple, very unique Z amps and my two favorites. If you have a ghia for smaller gigs and a Route for larger ones you should be in blues, Blues Rock, Country, Roots music heaven IMO. Let the blasting start I agree. The Ghia and the 66 have a lot more in common IMO than the 66 and the Z28. Well thanks a lot Curt and Laroosco! Now I have to get myself a Ghia and that could put my relationship in jeapordy ;D
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Post by Laroosco!! on Sept 11, 2006 8:44:34 GMT -7
You're welcome
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Post by Curt on Sept 11, 2006 19:45:07 GMT -7
Anytime Jaye I am here to fuel da GAS !!!
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Post by taswegian on Sept 12, 2006 1:03:49 GMT -7
I just bought a nice little 1-12 box that I'm sure would kill with the ghia too. ;D
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Post by John on Sept 12, 2006 5:27:01 GMT -7
Tas,
Is the 1x12 closed or open back? Is it loaded with a speaker yet? Or is it just the cabinet?
Mine's a closed back w/ Vintage 30. Trying to get that traditional 4x12 sound. Being closed back, it chops off the high end a bit. And it's LIGHT!
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Post by taswegian on Sept 12, 2006 6:20:57 GMT -7
Yeah it's a closed back with a custom designed blue framed speaker by the tone guru of Australia, Dave Ulbrick. It's rated at 35 watts and has a sensitivity around 97/98 so I'm hoping it will tame the beast a little and let me crank her up in smaller venues. Here's what Dave told me. "Howdy Jaye, I designed the V35 blues to fit somewhere between a Green back 25 and a Vintage 30. The cone is a long strand thin pulp that gives a rounder (browner) tone than a Vintage 30.I find that the Vintage 30 has a sharp high mid (1.8k to 2.5k) and you have a 102db sensitivity at these mid points. When you combine a high temp Kapton voice coil former you lower the rate to a nice 98db. So,the hearing scale being logarythmic you will notice that a 3db drop in sensitivity equates to a lower powered amp. regards Dave (sorry about the science lesson :-) ) From the website: Using our specially designed Heritage V35 Blue Framed 12" drivers High Temperature Kapton voice coil, classic Greenback tone with tighter bottom end. Each driver is rated at 35 Watts continuous Internally wired with #20 siliconized high temperature Mil spec cable High quality UK cliff 1/4" phono socket Each cabinet is handbuilt, numbered and signed by our master craftsmen Can't wait to hear it, I think it will kill. Would be very nice with the Ghia too I bet! And it's "Peachphan green" ;D www.ulbricksound.com/Default.asp?p=PT&id=13
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Post by drew on Sept 12, 2006 7:08:17 GMT -7
Hey Taz, That's a cool cab and science lesson. A ghia will do it right. After reading Curt's comments I had to do an a/b test. I can see where Curt and Laroosco get the comparisons. "66 is the Ghia's bigger, stronger, fatter Big Brother". I agree, especially fatter. IMO the response and feel of the two amps are very similar. Both are very touch sensitive and sustain notes wonderfully, chords or single.
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Post by taswegian on Sept 12, 2006 7:10:35 GMT -7
Ahhhhh! Stop it! ;D You boys have a conspiricy going to get me into more trouble!
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Post by John on Sept 12, 2006 7:13:27 GMT -7
I've noticed the V30 has a sharp high-mid. I kind of like it. Kind of gives that early 70's Marshall upper midrange honk. A real in-your-face attack frequency. Great match for a 66 and a Les Paul.
I swapped speakers in the cabinet. The only thing I had to compare it to was a Boogie Black Shadow 90 watt speaker. It sucked all the mids out. (Boogie, go figure) So the V30 won hands down. Much more presence. Not crispy high presense (8k hz or so), but the upper-mids gave it a 'stage presence'...if that makes sense. Or a 'cut through the mix' presence.
Had to stick a 'beam blocker' on it though.
One of these days I'll get my wife to show my how to download the pics from the digital camera, then I can share.
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Post by taswegian on Sept 12, 2006 7:20:35 GMT -7
I'm with ya, I like the V-30 also. I love the V30/G12H30 combo in my ZBest. I can't even brng myself to think about changing it. I'd get another and try something different if it came to that. I just need a cab for the smaller venues that I can work the amp a bit and I think this little speaker/cab is going to work brilliantly!
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Post by frunabulaks on Jan 15, 2007 18:33:03 GMT -7
I only play Strats right now and I own and love my Route 66. It took a while to get used to it. I am playing a Fender Custom classic Strat with a Mannmade Bridge and Vanzant Blues Pups and you just can't beat it. I can honestly say that I would change nothing about my clean tone. When I used a pedal like a tube screamer, the slightly more midrangy blues pups combined with the thick amp tones combined with the midrange hump of the tube screamer as simply too midrangy. So right now I am boosting for solos with a Bad Bob clean boost and an Xotic Effects BB for more non midrangey OD. The FD2 MOSFET sounded great through the Z with a Strat but it changed the tone too much. I tried almost every pedal known to mankind through this amp and although it loves pedals I had to find ones that were transparent because I just love the clean and slightly dirty when cranked sound so much.
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Post by iggs on Jan 16, 2007 7:51:16 GMT -7
Strats and Route 66 seem to be a perfect match since the amp is quite "thick" and "fat" sounding and Strats by default are a bit thin so they complement one another perfectly. It's a match made in heaven!
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Post by mward on Jan 16, 2007 9:25:46 GMT -7
iggs is right, and that works for the tele too. Single coil guitars that sound kind of thin sound great through a 66. I love it. I play my strat and tele through it all the time.
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Post by frunabulaks on Jan 28, 2007 8:19:51 GMT -7
I only play Strats right now and I play them through the Route 66. I have played with a whole bunch of different pickups. Most guitars with good humbuckers or P-90's sounded good immediately but I prefer single coils. I tried Fralins Blues and Vintage Hots and they sounded a little too bright for me. Fender Fat 50's too Fat too much midrange. Texas specials, not bad but not great. Duncan Surfs pretty good for clean Chicago Blues tone. Well, the list goes on and on. I finally landed on Vanzant Blues pickups and I have the warm open sound I always wanted on a Strat and its just Fat enough. I know he plays though a Fender Twin with a 62 Strat but I have that Ronnie Earl type tone now which is just what I was looking for I just found it in a different way. My buddy was listening to me play clean the other day with just reverb and when I turned up he though I had a Tube Screamer on at very low drive like SRV. This amp is great for Single coils you just have to play around a bit. The 66 does IMHO expose tone flaws in a guitar like very few amps do. It will make a great guitar sound really great and a mediocre guitar sound exactly like what it is. You can't hide with this amp and thats what I love about it.
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Post by whitestrat on May 12, 2007 20:09:14 GMT -7
Another vote for the Stratocaster and Route 66. My rig is a Fender 60's Relic Strat, Route 66, Avatar Vintage 1X12 open back w/ Weber AlNiCo 12A150A. TS808 out front for overdrive. Amazing range of cool tones to be had from this rig.
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Post by LeftyLang on May 13, 2007 20:23:31 GMT -7
A Strat through a 66 is my "Holy Grail" Tone. I just love the thickness it adds to singles. Add a Z 4x10 Cab & your in another level of Tone IMO.
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