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Post by mrwillnixon on Apr 27, 2009 9:00:11 GMT -7
Anyone have experience with both of these? Just played an EZG-50 last week and I loved it. The only thing stopping me from picking up the EZG is the CR, which I've had GAS for as long as I could remember. Since there's no TR dealers around here, I would have to make a drive to be able to play a CR. Who's played/owned both of these and made a decision on which one's better?
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Post by hogridr on Apr 27, 2009 9:41:25 GMT -7
The EZG is high on my wish list, played it and love it. The EZG-50 is $1799 new, the Two Rock CR is $5500 for a 50 watt and $6K for 100 watt. I played a CR 50 watt, nice amp but I did not hear anything worth another $3700 ... YMMV.
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Post by Chris NM on Apr 27, 2009 17:13:03 GMT -7
I own the EZG and have played the TR Custom Reverb on a couple of occasions that I think you are referring to. They are both seriously awesome sounding amps and I think that with the use of an air brake on the EZG, there is surprisingly a good number of similarities. In addition to many tonal similarities, a commonality between the two was the overall feel. They both felt like wonderfully broken in old amps.
In an admittedly biased statement, it is much easier for me to get that Mayer/Continuum tone w/ my EZG than it is to try and nail the classic Fender vibe with the CR.
Comparing an $1800 amp to an over $5K isn't really fair, but if you were to look at just the foundation (which is pretty important), I would easily say that the amps were on equal footings. Getting past the solid foundation, there are a much greater number of tone and drive shaping features that add to the complexity of the circuit, build time and thus the cost of the CR.
I hope that helps.
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Post by jtguitar on Apr 28, 2009 7:00:55 GMT -7
I sold my Classic Reverb recently. (FYI- The Classic Reverb and Custom Reverb are different amps.) I now play the EZG. I was a TR nut. I've owned several different models. The main difference between the CR and the EZG is, like all Z amps, the front end of the Z is not all choked up. I loved playing my Classic Reverb, and it is my favorite TR. It is among the quickest feeling of the TR amps. That being said, it still has a ton of perceived "sag". You pick the string and the note builds to a blooming tone. But that build takes time. I always felt like I was outplaying my amp and waiting for it to catch up.
I'm a blues/rock player and don't shred. However, I was still feeling like I wanted a faster attack, more like a Fender Super Reverb. I found the EZG and haven't looked back. Both amps sound stellar, and have great reverb. It comes down to feel... If you want quicker attack of fundamentals, go with the EZG. If you want a huge note that takes time to bloom, go with the Classic Reverb.
FWIW- I noticed that even John Mayer is using quicker feeling amps on the new album he a cutting. He's always copying me! ;D
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Post by hogridr on Apr 28, 2009 10:27:01 GMT -7
Good description JT, nicely put.
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Post by mrwillnixon on Apr 28, 2009 12:20:45 GMT -7
Hey, thanks a lot for the responses guys. I got the impression that the extra 3200.00 or so just isn't justified from what you guys are saying.
That being said though, I am just looking for the biggest sounding cleans possible. Can anyone make a comparison between the EZG and a Hiwatt DR103?
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Post by hogridr on Apr 28, 2009 12:27:11 GMT -7
The EZG has some big cleans, I hear more Fender from the EZG. Hiwatt type sounds are more KT-45, at least to my ears. I miss that amp.....
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Post by kruzty on Apr 28, 2009 12:36:08 GMT -7
Man, if I was considering a 6 Grand amp, I'd spend a couple hundred on a plane ticket go try it out if it wasn't close to me.
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Post by mrwillnixon on Apr 28, 2009 13:11:55 GMT -7
Man, if I was considering a 6 Grand amp, I'd spend a couple hundred on a plane ticket go try it out if it wasn't close to me. True, but I'm trying to figure out if the difference between the two is worth the plane ticket/drive.
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Post by Curt on Apr 28, 2009 15:48:46 GMT -7
Big cleans = KT45 in my book.
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Post by eliot1025 on May 4, 2009 8:36:58 GMT -7
KT-45 has huge beautiful cleans. It's not a Fenderish sound though - more like Vox and Hiwatt (but better .
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Post by smj on May 9, 2009 22:30:53 GMT -7
FWIW- I noticed that even John Mayer is using quicker feeling amps on the new album he a cutting. He's always copying me! ;D Is he moving away from the TR stuff? What's he using these days? Sean Meredith-Jones www.seanmeredithjones.com
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Post by hendrixbeano on May 12, 2009 22:13:29 GMT -7
FWIW- I noticed that even John Mayer is using quicker feeling amps on the new album he a cutting. He's always copying me! ;D Is he moving away from the TR stuff? What's he using these days? Sean Meredith-Jones www.seanmeredithjones.comIve seen recent vids of him playing his trusty Dumble and a Jtm45 type amp...ithink it was a metro. he's always used tons of different amps though....especially live. the last time i saw him he had a two rock, a dumble , a fender tweed twin(i think) and a few others on stage.
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