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Post by mdrs on Mar 15, 2009 10:55:49 GMT -7
Loving my Remedy. I'm playing it thru 4x12 cabs with excellent results.
I've ordered a Dr. Z 1x12 convertable cab that comes with the V30's. I've had good success with V30's, personally.
My question is, what are you other Remedy owners playing your Remedy thru? What speaker choices would you suggest if I was going to replace the stock V30??
I'm looking for Classic rock, blues, Duane A "warm fuzzies" in my tone.
Thanks!!
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Post by bluzman on Mar 15, 2009 11:18:59 GMT -7
I'll tell you what... I think the EVM12L sounds awesome with the Remedy... too bad it's such a heavy speaker. It lets you really hear the tubes.
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Post by mdrs on Mar 15, 2009 12:43:48 GMT -7
Hey bluzman...........I do have a Fuchs 2x12 ported, closed back cab with EV's........I'm gonna plug it it!!
Thanks!
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Post by peanutavalon on Mar 20, 2009 8:17:29 GMT -7
I've tried it with v30s and greenbacks in 2x12's so far. I like the 30's better. The greenbacks have too much fizz on the top end with the treble on 0. I'm also looking for a 1x12 to play it thru. This thing is way too loud with a 2x12. let me know what you're liking..thanks Hey bluzman...........I do have a Fuchs 2x12 ported, closed back cab with EV's........I'm gonna plug it it!! Thanks!
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Post by mdrs on Mar 22, 2009 9:04:40 GMT -7
I've spent some time trying to find out what speaker/speaker cab I like best with my Remedy. I've got this 1x12 Dr. Z convertable and wanna figure out what speaker I want to end up in it.
I must say that it's NOT been an easy task. Even using the same Les Paul Elegant, and no effects, there are so many options about how you can set the amp, given the Remedy's "EQ" section, PLUS the ability to mix in both the "high" and "normal" channels. And, then there is the half/full power switch. While the tone is very much the same on either half or full power, the power setting does effect how your signal hits the speakers, and therefore how they perform.
So, in spite of the Remedy being a "five knob" amp, you can really spend a lot of time tweeking the amp in many significant ways to try to optimize it's tone from any given speaker/speaker cab you are using. So, it's gonna take some time.
I have a variety of speakers and cabs I've run my Remedy thru so far. Here's the list;
-Marshall 4x12 basketweave cab loaded with Creambacks (made around 1974) -Marshall 1960V 4x12 with G12 Vintage 70 watt speakers (stock) -Marshall 1960 4x12 straight cab loaded with Heritage Series G12M's and G12H's -Marshall 1960TV cab 4x12 G12M-25's (stock) -Cornford 2x12 loaded with G12M-25's -Fuchs 2x12 loaded with EV's -Dr. Z 1x12 Convertable loaded with a Celestion Alnico Blue 15 Watt
I tried each with both full and half power (except for the Blue), and spent a bit of time trying to optimize the Remedy with each particular speaker/cab.
Who won? Well, to a large extent, the jury is still out.
None of them sounded bad, so lets start there.
My favorite tone, so far was the Dr. Z 1x12 with the Blue in it. Now, I could only use the Remedy on half power, and even on half power the neck pu (a '57 classic) on the Les Paul Elegant pushed the speaker into some mud. But, playing the bridge pu into the Blue sounded GREAT!! I was hearing the warm fuzzy classic rock "Duane" tone.
I would say that my #2 choice was the old Marshall 4x12 with the creamback speakers. It, too, had that warm fuzzy sweet tone that I really like.
I felt that the Remedy was a darn powerful amp and could push almost any of these speakers into a bit of "looseness"or distortion beyond the optimum. Most of my adjustments were getting the desired amount of speaker tone without them geting too loose. This is pretty easy to accomplish with the controls on the Remedy, and by backing off on the guitar's volume knob.
The sweet chimey cleans were "sweetest" thru the Dr Z 1x12 and that Blue Alnico speaker. The creambacks were again #2.
I thought that the Fuchs with the EV's might really clean up and tighten the Remedy, especially on the bottom end. However, it was not my favorite of these cabs/speakers tone wise.
All of the other cabs sounded good, to varing degrees. The TV cab, which is larger than the other cabs, sounded good, but didn't really deal with the bottom end the way I'd like.
I have to say that this "tendency" for the bottom to be a bit "loose" (which, btw, is a very "Marshall" tone characteristic, and not necessarily a bad thing) was immediately "fixed" by kicking on The Klon, with the treble turned up to about 1 or 2 o'clock. The Klon tightened the Remedy right on up, and gave it a real pleasing killer edge. I use The Klon A LOT, as it really is my secret weapon in helping a quality tube amp achieve it's best tone without altering the amp's tone in any significant way.
I do have two more cabs to run The Remedy thru, both with different speakers than the above offer. One is a Reeves 4x12 loaded with Fane speakers that tend to give a tighter growl than most other similiar speakers. So, I'm really looking forward to the Reeves cab tryout. And, the second is a stock Marshall 1936 2x12 cab loaded with G12T-75's. So, I'll try to report back when I give these two a run.
Now, after my experience to date with the Remedy, I'd say my favorite tone has been the Dr. Z 1x12 with the Blue Alnico in it. However, that speaker is a 15 watt speaker, and so not well suited to be pushed by the Remedy even at half power.
BTW, I've only tried the Dr. Z 1x12 convertable with the back closed so far. So, I still have to take the panel off and give it a go as an open back.
I went ahead and ordered a Celestion Alnico Gold 50 watt 12" last night. I hope to have it by the end of next week, and will put it in the Dr. Z and see how it sounds.
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Post by Phil (aka Phil) on Mar 22, 2009 9:13:38 GMT -7
I had a real short cab search...plugged into the Z-Best and haven't stopped playing. I can't imagine a better sounding rig.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Mar 22, 2009 9:58:46 GMT -7
If you like the Alnico Blue, you'll likely like the Gold. Slightly warmer, but not a ton, and better bottom end. And yeah, leave the back off.
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Post by mdrs on Mar 22, 2009 10:22:07 GMT -7
Thanks, Steve. I hope to have the Gold this week, and my back's coming off!! ;D
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Mar 22, 2009 11:11:41 GMT -7
And get it good and broken in before you make a decision. As you know, those speakers have copious quantities of upper mids. They tend to smooth out real nice when they break in, so be patient. It'll come.
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Post by bluzman on Mar 22, 2009 12:27:18 GMT -7
I love it with the Z-Best but I don't take the Z-Best out for smaller rooms. I have a TP 1x12 with a Gold that I've been using out and at rehearsals.
As Curt said somewhere along the line, it is a very speaker friendly amp.
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Post by Curt on Mar 24, 2009 9:56:52 GMT -7
G12-65
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2009 13:17:37 GMT -7
I've run my Remedy through a Z-Best (in the store), 1x12 open back Z cab with an Eminence Governor, 2x10 convertible Z with 2-10" Z speakers, and a Mesa 3/4 closed back 1x12 with a Black Shadow, and all of them sounded pretty darn good with the Remedy. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a speaker that doesn't get along with the Remedy.
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Post by asattwanger on Mar 24, 2009 14:45:31 GMT -7
That seams to be a nice cab selection you have there.
The gold should be the last thing you need, but it's always worth asking Ted Weber what he thinks. I tried to look up the info on a speaker that I was looking at for a great BF Bassman tone, but couldn't find it.
DAVE
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Post by mdrs on Mar 25, 2009 18:24:12 GMT -7
My Gold will be here next Monday........so, I've gotta wait.........don't you hate that???
I'll post after throwing it in the 1x12 convert and giving it a go.
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Post by mtlrecords on Oct 2, 2009 9:59:35 GMT -7
I am thinking of getting a Remedy with a 1x12 convertible cabinet loaded with either a vintage 30 or G12 H 65. I know the G12 H65 sounds good with some of my other amps, but I don't have a Remedy yet to test if it sounds nice too.
But assuming the 1x12 worked, I could place two Dr. Z 1x12 cabs on one another and then stack the Remedy and EZG-50 on top! This would be a ridiculous mini-stack with tons of volume and tonal options! Radial A/B/Y of course to mix and match...
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Post by jammergreg on Oct 2, 2009 11:45:07 GMT -7
I have the Z Convertible w/ G 12 H. It sounds Great, there are other hight end spkrs that sound good too; one guy said a Greeny. Remedy is not all that speaker fussy, We are !
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Post by John on Oct 2, 2009 12:03:53 GMT -7
I auditioned three speakers when I first got my Remedy. (with a Les Paul)
V30 Greenback G12H
Hands down winner: Greenback V30 was also good. Sounded rather bright. That upper mid honk of the V30 really came through. Both these speakers will do just fine for me. But the greenback had THAT late 60's early 70's sound.
I thought the G12H was terrible, but as I've said here before, I don't like the G12H with humbuckers.
So my only decision is do I keep my Avatar 1x12 with the greenback, or do I get a 2x12 greenback?
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Post by faze on Oct 3, 2009 18:42:50 GMT -7
I play Strats and love the Celestion G12H I don't like guitars with humbuckers so I wouldn't even know how it would sound with one. I tried the Vintage 30 that came with it and did not like it. The Vintgae 30 was way too bright.
I also tried a 4/12 Cab with the Celestion G12C speakers these are the same as in the JH100 cab.. They sounded great too however I liked the G12H.
I still want to try the Remedy in a Z Best
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Post by Joey Beverages on Oct 10, 2009 6:06:22 GMT -7
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Post by Ryan (shorty) on Oct 10, 2009 11:16:36 GMT -7
Double yes. I like that speaker with all my Z's.
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Post by 6strang (aka Paul) on Jan 13, 2010 6:18:22 GMT -7
I received a greenback from another forum member here yesterday. Popped it in a 112 z cab and fired up the Remedy. HOLY SMOKES! I thought I loved the G12-65. Real good sound for sure. My ears LOVED the Greenback. Half power, full power it was a beautiful thang! My 2Cents. YMMV.
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Post by John on Jan 13, 2010 6:37:19 GMT -7
Glad you like it Paul...Like I said....greenback!!
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jan 13, 2010 7:02:09 GMT -7
Isn't a greenback a 25 watt speaker?
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Post by 6strang (aka Paul) on Jan 13, 2010 7:16:14 GMT -7
Yes it is Steve. I was mainly using the Remedy on half power when evaluating. I did kick it to full power and the hairs on my arms stood up. Sweet tone.
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Post by benttop (Steve) on Jan 13, 2010 7:59:26 GMT -7
Yes it is Steve. I was mainly using the Remedy on half power when evaluating. I did kick it to full power and the hairs on my arms stood up. Sweet tone. Remedy with all four 6V6's firing most definitely IS a sweet thing. That speaker might be a bit miffed about it though...
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Post by Jan on Jan 20, 2010 14:45:03 GMT -7
Yes it is Steve. I was mainly using the Remedy on half power when evaluating. I did kick it to full power and the hairs on my arms stood up. Sweet tone. Remedy with all four 6V6's firing most definitely IS a sweet thing. That speaker might be a bit miffed about it though... not for long ... I smell smoke!
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