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Post by mrweems on Dec 13, 2007 7:19:41 GMT -7
Does the combo weight THAT much?
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Post by redgl on Dec 13, 2007 8:14:03 GMT -7
I think many people like matching the head with different speaker configurations, and yes the combo weighs a lot.
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Post by mrweems on Dec 13, 2007 8:28:01 GMT -7
does the speaker combo really matter?
i only see about 2 different varieties. and that usually varies on wattage and make..
yes i understand there is a bigger difference than that. But not to the audiences ears...
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Post by billyguitar on Dec 13, 2007 11:39:57 GMT -7
My Maz 38 1x12 reverb combo weighs 60 pounds.
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Post by detuned on Dec 13, 2007 12:28:06 GMT -7
It's not necessarily always the weight. A separate head/combo rig reduces vibration to the tubes, which can reduce tube rattle & prolong tube life, or so it's been said.
Personally, I'd rather move *one* box, even if it's a little heavier than separates. YMMV.
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Post by mrweems on Dec 13, 2007 13:32:30 GMT -7
It's not necessarily always the weight. A separate head/combo rig reduces vibration to the tubes, which can reduce tube rattle & prolong tube life, or so it's been said. Personally, I'd rather move *one* box, even if it's a little heavier than separates. YMMV. FACT They use / used the same kind of TUBE that they use in amps as they do in airplanes. I really doubt the rattling would cause that much damage.
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Post by mds on Dec 14, 2007 3:06:33 GMT -7
Flexibility...one or two cabs with as many heads as I want...I can mix and match different heads and cabs depending on the gig...combos weigh too much too...though so does my ZBest...
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Post by backwardsman on Dec 16, 2007 16:04:00 GMT -7
I bought the head rather than the combo for the weight factor, plus the ability to use different speakers for different applications. I have a Zbest cab (not light), and two avatar 1x12's with a different speaker in each. Now I'm thinking about getting a 2x10 cab......
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Post by mds on Dec 16, 2007 16:52:58 GMT -7
...Zbest cab (not light),. Haha, there's an understatement...
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Post by tjstrat on Dec 16, 2007 18:34:02 GMT -7
I have both. The combo's in a flight case so it usually goes out with me. With the head/cab cofiguration I use either a closed back Z Best or a 1/2 back Mesa 2x12, depending on space. The Mesa is smaller, and either cab can be stood on end or in their sides. I think that seperate cabs can add a lot of versatility to a rig, and can be a real boon when the rooms you play can vary from a large living room to a 1500 seater or a 3000 seat outdoor festival.
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Post by LittleBlindShakey on Dec 25, 2007 11:23:34 GMT -7
The head and cab is more versatile. And I know that 60 pounds does not sound like much to a young guy, but I am 53 and weigh 165. It got to the point where schlepping the combo up and down stairs on the way out or in was a buzz killer. And I don’t need my buzz killed as I am getting ready to play.
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Post by (8^D) on Dec 25, 2007 11:48:20 GMT -7
Head + cab = flexibility.
* 1 head can be matched with several different cabs/speakers for different situations. * Can fly a head (travel). Flying a combo isn't really an option these days.
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Post by jwr on Dec 25, 2007 15:15:16 GMT -7
The Maz Sr. has so many different tones in it. Vox, Fender and Marshall are all there. A couple of tube swaps, the right cab and you can cover all of 'em. The Maz Sr is the last Z amp I'd buy as a combo. Get a head and start collecting cabs for different tones and rooms.
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Post by guitarelf on Dec 26, 2007 12:30:53 GMT -7
i have a combo, 2-12... we used to call my bandmate's fender twin with JBL's the widowmaker, but we have moved that title to my Z, which I won't let anyone else touch! always use a hand truck and save your back! getting it back in the house up the stairs at 3:00 am after a long gig will test your relationship with the amp, but the next morning i am always glad i took it instead of a direct box into the p.a.!
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Post by mrdownchild on Jan 22, 2008 20:25:17 GMT -7
I love my MAZ, but I've got to admit....it is a heavy SOB. I've heard quotes of 60 pounds, maybe even more. It feels heavier the older I get. Funny story, after lugging it around for a couple of months, I decided that a road case was the way to go. I put the MAZ in it's case...threw it in the van, and I was on my way! Man, the first show I did with the road case was at an airport lounge. We had never played there before, so I didn't know what to expect. Anyway, I was all smiles rolling the case through the parking lot...thinking about how nice it felt to not be carrying the amp. The guys in the band were grinning from ear to ear and snickering when I arrived at the front door. They knew what I was about to discover. The lounge was on the second floor of this building. No elevator.
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Post by jcv on Jan 22, 2008 20:44:05 GMT -7
My old Maz Sr 2x12 weighed a TON. I hear folks saying the 1x12 is really heavy too. My current Z is a Galaxie 1x12 combo and I don't think it's heavy at all... should it be any lighter than the Maz?
I agree that a head/cab is versatile but I just prefer combos. In fact, I've started saving for my next Z combo. I'm missing my old Sr... I don't think I gave it enough time. I'm also considering a Jr 2x10 - how heavy are those compared to my Gal? Anyone know?
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Post by tommyellison on Jan 23, 2008 16:31:35 GMT -7
Don't know if this has been mentioned as a rationale for the head/combo rig but I like the idea of not having to break in a new speaker(s) every time you wish to change configurations. Go with one speaker cab and change heads at will with no break in period!
Just my $0.02
Tommy
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Post by Mogens on Jan 24, 2008 6:28:41 GMT -7
Living in Europe there is one good reason for buying a head in stead of a combo, and that's shipping costs. That said both have advantages: head = versability regarding cabinets, combo = compact solution (and you don't have to remember the speaker cable!)
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Post by jdspelledzz on Feb 4, 2008 8:56:57 GMT -7
Head.... all the way.
Mobility, availability, sellability, variety, looks, easier to work on......
To me, there really is no advantage a combo has over a head. I have a few combos, and I enjoy them but I keep them only because I want a selection... not because I really need them.
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Post by got twang? on Feb 4, 2008 16:59:17 GMT -7
I have a red 2x10 combo, which I love. I'm thinking about switching to a head though for many of the reasons already mentioned. Problem is, I'd have to sell the 2x10 to be able to get the head, and it seems like everyone is wanting heads not combo's right now.
Decisions, decisions....
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Post by jdspelledzz on Feb 5, 2008 9:57:11 GMT -7
That's exactly why I stick with heads, because a combo is almost a sunk cost the second you get it.
You might have better luck though on Ebay or Craigslist then here though, I think the obsession with heads is limited to certain areas. Plenty of good players are looking for boutique amps who are not Z fanatics or even know of them, would love a 210.
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Post by got twang? on Feb 5, 2008 11:42:08 GMT -7
Yeah, you're probably right. It's not that I dislike my combo, I just would rather have the head. I'd like have both, if I could afford them!
This combo is my first Z, so it's hard for me to let it go!
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Post by wilhelm on Feb 5, 2008 12:40:04 GMT -7
The last amps I had were all combos. Since I got my MazJr and Mazerati GT I´m enjoying the advantages of heads. I´m playing thru a 1-12 cab with a TT alnico. Every combo I had (Fender, Musicman etc.) sounded way better thru the 1-12 extension cab than as a combo alone. It think it has a lot to do with the wood, the size of a combo or cab how it finally sounds. Usually in the combos the tubes are hanging and there is not a lot of space (in smaller combos) for the speaker to work. I like heads with standing up tubes. Maybe there are combos sounding good but I prefer head and cab after some years of experience. A Z head and a 1-12 cab are fine to carry. Just my opinion.
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Post by patrick on Feb 12, 2008 5:33:56 GMT -7
Head.... all the way! With 4x12 ;o) ...
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Post by LittleC on Feb 12, 2008 18:22:31 GMT -7
First: - I'm not getting any younger and the amps I use ARE getting heavier!
Second: - 2 x 10 cabinet
- 1 x 10 / 1 x 12
- 1 x 12 cabinet
- 2 x 12 cabinet
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2008 12:36:27 GMT -7
The head and cab is more versatile. And I know that 60 pounds does not sound like much to a young guy, but I am 53 and weigh 165. It got to the point where schlepping the combo up and down stairs on the way out or in was a buzz killer. And I don’t need my buzz killed as I am getting ready to play. I'm not young either but the Maz I am currently evaluating seems noticeably lighter than my Twin. Of course the Twin has wheels.
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