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Post by funkyjazz82 on Nov 5, 2007 14:24:56 GMT -7
I've been messing around with the settings for a good jazz sound, mainly with my es335 and PRS, and ive come to the conclusion that keeping the treble at noon, mid at noon and bass at 2, no cut, no reverb, master dimed and volume at 9 is probably my best bet. Anyone have any other sugggestions? I think it sounds ok, but maybe I'm doing the wrong thing. Any advice?
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Post by billyguitar on Nov 5, 2007 14:57:34 GMT -7
Using the low input? Try a lower gain preamp tube for V1, like a 12AY7? That's all I can think of.
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Remco
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Post by Remco on Nov 8, 2007 7:45:56 GMT -7
Doesn't it depend on what you want to hear? Are you thinking Charlie Christian or Jim Hall? I thought for a long time that as long as I dialled in loads of bass, it sounded jazzy. But my favorite jazz guitarist (Wes Montgomery) often used a light, bright sound. It took me 25 years to figure out that what your hands do is more important in jazz than what your amp does. The Maz-Sr can deliver a range of beautiful jazzy tones. How lucky are we to own such great equipment?
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Post by funkyjazz82 on Nov 8, 2007 8:53:27 GMT -7
Thats a great question, never thought about that, i guess I prefer the stand jazz stone, which I think matches well with Jim Hall's sound or Grant Green, or Pat Metheny for that matter. I think all three of them have that 'standard' jazz tone, lots of bass, a bit of treble. Wes's sound certainly is a bit brighter than most jazz guitarists tones, but he also uses his thumb, so you are right, it is the way you play it. I guess I'll keep tweaking...
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Post by billyguitar on Nov 8, 2007 14:49:44 GMT -7
You should experiment with different speakers too.
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Post by funkyjazz82 on Nov 9, 2007 9:20:55 GMT -7
Actually, last night at my gig, I got a very close sound to Wes Montgomery's bright jazz tone....with a strat! sounds crazy, but it was true. damn, i actually like the CUT knob now, didn't use it before, but who knew that would help me out someday
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Post by billyguitar on Nov 9, 2007 13:25:54 GMT -7
I'm not a jazz player but I fake it. I've been using a Carmen Ghia and a Maz jr reverb head with different speakers. At dinner club gigs these little amps will do fine if you don't mind the occasional splat when the tone pot is down on the guitar. We do mostly the Louie Jordan type material so it's not inappropriate. The nice thing about the Ghia is it's so light! I'm using these heads with either a 1x12 EV cab or a 1x15 JBL cab. I know this was off thread but thought it might be of interest.
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Post by arthur on Nov 29, 2007 21:37:11 GMT -7
I've been messing around with the settings for a good jazz sound, mainly with my es335 and PRS, and ive come to the conclusion that keeping the treble at noon, mid at noon and bass at 2, no cut, no reverb, master dimed and volume at 9 is probably my best bet. Anyone have any other sugggestions? I think it sounds ok, but maybe I'm doing the wrong thing. Any advice? Assuming you don't want a distorted, Scofield-type jazz tone.... The key to getting the cleanest tone is to keep the volume (preamp) low and the master (power amp) high. So, turn your master all the way up and the volume low, using it as, well, a volume.
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Post by LeftyLang on Nov 29, 2007 22:36:48 GMT -7
I've been messing around with the settings for a good jazz sound, mainly with my es335 and PRS, and ive come to the conclusion that keeping the treble at noon, mid at noon and bass at 2, no cut, no reverb, master dimed and volume at 9 is probably my best bet. Anyone have any other sugggestions? I think it sounds ok, but maybe I'm doing the wrong thing. Any advice? That is my setting with my ES-165 and Maz Sr. Works Great IMO.
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Post by detuned on Nov 30, 2007 13:31:53 GMT -7
I've been messing around with the settings for a good jazz sound, mainly with my es335 and PRS, and ive come to the conclusion that keeping the treble at noon, mid at noon and bass at 2, no cut, no reverb, master dimed and volume at 9 is probably my best bet. Anyone have any other sugggestions? I think it sounds ok, but maybe I'm doing the wrong thing. Any advice? Assuming you don't want a distorted, Scofield-type jazz tone.... The key to getting the cleanest tone is to keep the volume (preamp) low and the master (power amp) high. So, turn your master all the way up and the volume low, using it as, well, a volume. What he said! Low input helps here too. If you do want it partially broken up, reverse the thinking about the Volume - Master relationship.
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Post by guitarelf on Dec 26, 2007 12:59:32 GMT -7
I play my L-5 with the settings pretty much as the others have indicated, although in my room at home i don't dime the master!! This will probably sound pretty dumb, but it took me a while to try the "lo" input jack...heck, who doesn't want "high"?? to my surprise, it solved everything with that particular guitar. I guess my checkered past with other amps led me to believe that all those little things wouldn't really affect the sound, but with the Z, everything makes a difference. Polytone??? no thanks! the Z is warmer, fatter, and will carry you above that dang sax!
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