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Post by alloftheabove on Aug 19, 2007 20:01:10 GMT -7
When I introduced myself in the lounge, everyone recommended a Maz Jr or Sr. Of the two, I would definitely be leaning to the Sr. more than the Jr. (I'd Airbrake it as needed if the Master wasn't doing the job). I've done a little more research and (surprise) had a few questions.
I keep reading that Maz's have their own sound, some have said part Vox part Matchless, some have said part Vox part Fender. How would you describe the Maz Sr.?
How's the low end on these? In my past experience with non-Z amps, EL-84 amps have left me a little wanting in the low end.
Are the clips on the Z website (especially the clips from "Stories") indicative of the way this amp sounds in person, or is there some studio magic going on with those clips?
Thanks again for all the help! Robert
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Post by (8^D) on Aug 19, 2007 21:20:04 GMT -7
Well, the beauty of the Maz is its chameleon ability.
All the comments, part Z part Matchless part Vox part Fender, are accurate.
The amp reacts wonderfully to setting, speaker, guitar, and tube changes and can cover all kinds of tones - all with that distinctive "Z" grind/attitude. The amp also reacts to player styles extremely well.
A great design. Would say it's a desert island amp...could do about anything with it.
W/respect to the clips, yeah, that's what they sound like - no studio magic.
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Post by Phil (aka Phil) on Aug 20, 2007 5:24:04 GMT -7
The Senior is pure magic. The key to the amp is the "cut" control. It may be the most useful control on the planet. You can turn the "cut" up and get a Voxy sound, or turn it down and also reduce the mids for a more Fender sound. A MAZ Sr. through a Z-Best will give any Fender blackface Twin Reverb a run for it's money. The cut control also is what makes the master volume work so well. I *hate* master volume amps; the only amps I own with masters are the MAZ Sr. and MAZ Jr., and the SRZ. When you turn down the master on most amps, you lose that presence and sparkle that make the amp fun to play. With the Sr. and Jr. you just turn up the "cut" a little and it sounds like there's no master in the circuit at all. Listen to Jayson Chance's sound clips here: www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=465770Scroll down to the bottom. That's exactly what a MAZ Sr. sounds like in person. Phil
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Post by guitarboy02451 on Aug 20, 2007 5:24:55 GMT -7
Ditto's to what Dan said... The Maz is made up of Doc's Holy Trinity of sound. Marshall, Vox, Fender. To me with my settings it has a very Marshally type tone. Go to my web: www.paulgirolamo.com and check out the sample tunes, i.e. Badge, SRV Lives On... etc... You'll get the idea. These were recorded on an inferior recorder with poor quality pre's. Hopefully soon, I'll have some stuff posted from my Digi 003 Factory / iMac setup. Back to the amp. Low end... LOL! I have my bass level set between 9-10 o'clock position. With my Z-Best cab there is plenty of low end... I do run an airbrake as this puppy can get loud.
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Post by alloftheabove on Aug 20, 2007 8:21:14 GMT -7
Thanks for the informative replies and clips guys. And nice playing!
I've read a lot here about the differences between the Maz Sr. and Maz Jr., and the clips seem to show some of those differences. I'm wondering if anyone can tell me more about the differences between the older two-knob Mazerati and the Maz Sr.? Also, I've seen references to an old and a new Maz Sr. Is the old Maz Sr. the same thing as the 2 knob Maz?
I'd also like to hear about similarities/differences between the Z28 and the Maz Sr. I've seen some comments about Maz Jr. v. Z28, which usually say the Maz is more versatile. I've not seen much about the Maz Sr. v. Z28. Are there tonal differences? Does one take pedals better than the other? Are there things one will do that the other will not?
Thanks again!
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Post by heynewguy (Ol’ Bill) on Aug 20, 2007 14:56:44 GMT -7
Phil, Dan and Paul said it all.
Bill
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Post by guitarboy02451 on Aug 26, 2007 19:09:53 GMT -7
Phil, Dan and Paul said it all. Bill That's because Dan IS the man!!! :-)
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Post by (8^D) on Aug 27, 2007 5:50:12 GMT -7
Phil, Dan and Paul said it all. Bill That's because Dan IS the man!!! :-) Try telling that to my 3-yr old!
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Post by dave19er on Aug 31, 2007 15:56:44 GMT -7
And I can second the low end - I often use my Maz Sr as a bass amp, plugged into a 2x10 bass cab. It just has an amazing tone - not as loud as "real" bass amps (like my ampeg), so it doesn't work super hot with a full band, but it still sounds great and has got plenty of low end to spare.
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Post by jwr on Aug 31, 2007 20:56:02 GMT -7
Thanks for the informative replies and clips guys. And nice playing! I've read a lot here about the differences between the Maz Sr. and Maz Jr., and the clips seem to show some of those differences. I'm wondering if anyone can tell me more about the differences between the older two-knob Mazerati and the Maz Sr.? Also, I've seen references to an old and a new Maz Sr. Is the old Maz Sr. the same thing as the 2 knob Maz? I'd also like to hear about similarities/differences between the Z28 and the Maz Sr. I've seen some comments about Maz Jr. v. Z28, which usually say the Maz is more versatile. I've not seen much about the Maz Sr. v. Z28. Are there tonal differences? Does one take pedals better than the other? Are there things one will do that the other will not? Thanks again! The Mazerati was a cross between Marshall and Vox. A buddy of mine had a 2X10 combo for a while and it's a cool amp, but not as versatile as the Maz Sr. The Mazerati won't do any Fender tones either. I owned a Z-28 for a while, I bought it the same day as my Maz Sr. I loved the creamy sound of the Z-28, nice buttery Fender sound and when cranked could achieve a bit of Marshall grit too. It's a killin' amp for sure. But for me the Maz Sr is just more versatile. Tons of low end as mentioned above, and Paul G is absolutely right.....It's got the Holy Trinity of Sound inside that little box
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Post by big ( Al Z. ) on Sept 4, 2007 18:35:51 GMT -7
The Senior is pure magic. The key to the amp is the "cut" control. It may be the most useful control on the planet. You can turn the "cut" up and get a Voxy sound, or turn it down and also reduce the mids for a more Fender sound. A MAZ Sr. through a Z-Best will give any Fender blackface Twin Reverb a run for it's money. The cut control also is what makes the master volume work so well. I *hate* master volume amps; the only amps I own with masters are the MAZ Sr. and MAZ Jr., and the SRZ. When you turn down the master on most amps, you lose that presence and sparkle that make the amp fun to play. With the Sr. and Jr. you just turn up the "cut" a little and it sounds like there's no master in the circuit at all. Listen to Jayson Chance's sound clips here: www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=465770Scroll down to the bottom. That's exactly what a MAZ Sr. sounds like in person. Phil I'm with ya on the cut control. Very key to the versitility of the Maz 38.
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Post by Phil (aka Phil) on Sept 5, 2007 7:07:31 GMT -7
Thanks for the informative replies and clips guys. And nice playing! I've read a lot here about the differences between the Maz Sr. and Maz Jr., and the clips seem to show some of those differences. I'm wondering if anyone can tell me more about the differences between the older two-knob Mazerati and the Maz Sr.? Also, I've seen references to an old and a new Maz Sr. Is the old Maz Sr. the same thing as the 2 knob Maz? I'd also like to hear about similarities/differences between the Z28 and the Maz Sr. I've seen some comments about Maz Jr. v. Z28, which usually say the Maz is more versatile. I've not seen much about the Maz Sr. v. Z28. Are there tonal differences? Does one take pedals better than the other? Are there things one will do that the other will not? Thanks again! Comparing the MAZ 38 and a Z-28 is definitely apples and oranges. The MAZ 38 is a cathode biased "Voxy/Fendery with a little Marshall" that still has a very unique Dr. Z sound- tight bottom, great mids, totally "non-harsh" highs, very "sophisticated". It takes pedals well, better than a lot of other brands of amps. The Z-28 is a mean machine, with the famous Dr. Z "Route 66" tone controls, fixed biased, Fendery when set cleaner, Marshally (especially with humbuckers) when loud, takes pedals extremely well (10 on a 10 scale). Not a lot of clean headroom, but don't let that fool you- even clean through an efficient speaker/cab it's loud, due to the preamp design. Not as versatile (in my opinion) as the Sr. I love my Z-28, but hands down if I had to only own one of the two the Sr. wins. Phil
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Post by Stylemaster on Sept 5, 2007 13:16:38 GMT -7
The cut control also is what makes the master volume work so well. I *hate* master volume amps; the only amps I own with masters are the MAZ Sr. and MAZ Jr., and the SRZ. When you turn down the master on most amps, you lose that presence and sparkle that make the amp fun to play. With the Sr. and Jr. you just turn up the "cut" a little and it sounds like there's no master in the circuit at all. Listen to Jayson Chance's sound clips here: www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=465770Scroll down to the bottom. That's exactly what a MAZ Sr. sounds like in person. Phil Can anyone tell me what cab Jayson Chance is playing the Maz Sr. through the Weber Ceramic Blue Dog with? That clip (Dr Z MAZ 38 Clip 1) is on Ted Weber's site (only it says that he's playing a Maz 18) and it is THE TONE I've been searching for. I just bought a Maz. Sr. Reverb head and need to find the right speaker/cab combination. I'm very new to the Maz or any Dr. Z for that matter and I can't seem to get it to sound like all of you say it does. Is there any way to get in touch with Jayson Chance to ask him what his setup is?
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Post by messenger on Sept 5, 2007 13:17:49 GMT -7
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Post by dongiesen on Sept 5, 2007 14:49:48 GMT -7
I'm pretty sure it was a Weber cab also as I recall reading him ordering one but don't know if it's pre or post clip. Judging it's on Ted's site I would guess it's all Weber. You could bring up Jason Chance profile and archive his posts going way back for research. Haven't seen him on for awhile. Perhaps he's on the road?
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Post by dongiesen on Sept 5, 2007 15:06:48 GMT -7
click on search and go to page 30 JChance and change last 10 to 100 or so. Looks like his last post was 7/1 which mentions some Weber clips but you'll have to go back from there to read for the actual info
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Post by (8^D) on Sept 5, 2007 15:58:10 GMT -7
PM sent.... The cut control also is what makes the master volume work so well. I *hate* master volume amps; the only amps I own with masters are the MAZ Sr. and MAZ Jr., and the SRZ. When you turn down the master on most amps, you lose that presence and sparkle that make the amp fun to play. With the Sr. and Jr. you just turn up the "cut" a little and it sounds like there's no master in the circuit at all. Listen to Jayson Chance's sound clips here: www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=465770Scroll down to the bottom. That's exactly what a MAZ Sr. sounds like in person. Phil Can anyone tell me what cab Jayson Chance is playing the Maz Sr. through the Weber Ceramic Blue Dog with? That clip (Dr Z MAZ 38 Clip 1) is on Ted Weber's site (only it says that he's playing a Maz 18) and it is THE TONE I've been searching for. I just bought a Maz. Sr. Reverb head and need to find the right speaker/cab combination. I'm very new to the Maz or any Dr. Z for that matter and I can't seem to get it to sound like all of you say it does. Is there any way to get in touch with Jayson Chance to ask him what his setup is?
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Post by Stylemaster on Sept 5, 2007 20:16:15 GMT -7
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