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Post by jwr on Nov 7, 2005 9:08:02 GMT -7
So I'm close to ordering my Maz 38. But I can't make up my mind about the configuration I would like to have it in. 2X10's or a 4x10 cab and head? I NEED HELP! And to make matters worse, I played a Z-28 and will be buying that after the SR. So I'm trying to figure out how to use these two amplifiers together. I like BOTH amps with 10 inch speakers, but should I just buy combo's? Any help/advice would be much appreciated as I am going to order the SR. before the end of the year. THANKS Jason
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Post by propellr on Nov 7, 2005 12:10:37 GMT -7
Jason, Tell us more about what you want out of your new Z and maybe some members will be able to speak up from their own experiences and help you decide. Me, I want to roll up to a gig with my guitar in one hand and my amp in the other. The 2x10 combo was the way to go for me. I loved the portability of my old Fender Princeton Reverb, but needed way more headroom for the sound I'm after. Now, a Maz 38 Senior is no lunchbox at 47 lbs, but it's not my old Pro Reverb Herniator, either. To boot, I'm a plug-and-play rhythm guitarist who wants it to sound sweet right out of the box. The good news is, when I tried the Maz 38 in a variety of speaker configurations, I couldn't dial out the sweetness. You can't go wrong, so it boils down to what you're looking to do. Let us know.
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Post by jwr on Nov 7, 2005 17:58:49 GMT -7
I guess I'm looking to use the Sr. in a variety of different ways. I will gig with the amp, probably along with the Z-28 when I get that, and with my Bogner Shiva. I use a Voodoo Labs amp switcher. Depending on the gig it could be any configuration of these 3 amps along with my Mesa Trem-O-Verb every once in a while. I want to use the Sr to play blues, jazz and rock. Clean and dirty, depending on my mood that night:) With all of these amps (Shiva is a 1X12 and Mesa is a 2X12 combo) should I just stick with combo amps and not mess with any extension cabs? I see myself using the Z-28 and the SR together a lot. SR clean and Z-28 dirty. I really like to mix sounds and textures of different amps. The Shiva is EL-34, the Mesa is obviously 6L6. The Sr covers EL-84's and the Z-28 6V6, you get the picture. This way I can cover pretty much any tone I want. Maybe what I should have asked is this; Are the 2 extra 10" speakers worth the extra money and weight? I hope this helps!! Thanks in advance for any advice. Jason
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Post by hdahs143 on Nov 7, 2005 21:50:54 GMT -7
I love my Z-BEST, but my MAZ also sounds killer plugged into my 4x10 Hot Rod Deville's speakers. And I've heard the Doc's 10" speakers in a MAZ 18 2x10 combo. and they just kick! The 4x10 sound just works for me because it is a bigger soundstage and moves more air. You get some of the chunk of 12's with the spank of 10's
Not to mention the 4x10 Fender Bassman, the 4x10 Super Reverb etc. are rumored to be decent sounding amps ;D
Unless weight or space are a crucial factor, to me the 4x10 is the way to go!
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Post by jwr on Nov 9, 2005 12:18:57 GMT -7
Thanks for the response hdahs143. I've been mulling this over for a LONG time now. I just want to order my new Z with no regrets. I know I'm gonna love the amp, but I'm trying to figure out the best way to integrate it with the rest of my gear. Jason
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Post by billyguitar on Nov 11, 2005 8:27:56 GMT -7
To: propellr My Maz 38 1 x 12" combo weighs 60lbs. When I got mine I thought it felt heavier than 47 lbs so I put it on the bathroom scale and there it was, 60 lbs. Probably about the same as a Pro Reverb. Other than a Fender tweed amp good tone is always heavy. Next time I'll do the separate head/cab thing. I've even been considering (God forbid!) putting casters on my combo.
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Post by jwr on Nov 11, 2005 9:35:59 GMT -7
Billyguitar: I've thought about putting casters on my Shiva, it's somewhere around 75LBS! But I refuse to mess up the cab:) So you think the head and cab is the way to go. I guess I'm leaning that way since Z's 4X10 cab is pretty small in size and weight. Thanks for the input! Jason
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Post by billyguitar on Nov 11, 2005 11:10:07 GMT -7
With a 4 x 10 box you could wire them up to two 10"s per jack. Then use two different heads at the same time. I used to a/b a Fender Dual Showman Reverb head and a Marshall 1987X head into the same Marshall cab that way. Worked great for me. I like the Z 4 x 10 cab but actually prefer the 2 x 10. There's some kind of phasing going on with four speaker cabs that I don't seem to care for. It seems to hurt the low mids. If you're lucky you might be able to a/b a 4 x 10 and a 2 x 10.
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Post by jwr on Nov 14, 2005 11:01:01 GMT -7
BILLYGUITAR: I have never seen a Z 4X10 cab. I've only heard from other people who own them what they think about them. I've played the 2X10 combo and the 2X12 combo and I like the amp with 10's a lot more than 12's. I wonder if the Doc. would split a 4X10 cab? An input for each side of the cab? That would be killer with a SR on one side and a Z-28 on the other!
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Post by jwr on Nov 23, 2005 11:31:15 GMT -7
After a lot of thought I've decided to buy the 2X10 combo. I have a few reason's that I'll list just in case someone ever runs into the same problem. When I first thought of buying a Z I thought the SR. would be too loud, but was reassured by everyone that the volume would be manageable, with 2X10's that's true but with 4X10's............ The 4X10 cab weighs as much as the 2X10 combo, I thought a head and cab would be easier to carry around than a combo amp, but it doesn't appear so. I thought about a 2X10 ext cab, but it's a sealed cab, I like the sound of the open back combo. Everything, including the price, seems to be pointing me to the 2X10 combo. I would like to thank everyone who responded to such a dumb problem such as this, I'm sure a few who read this had to laugh a little:) I will be ordering my new Z the first week in December, I'll let you all know what, when, and where. Thanks, Jason
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Post by billyguitar on Nov 23, 2005 12:38:50 GMT -7
I think the 2-10 cab is open back. I could be totally wrong.......
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Post by myles on Nov 23, 2005 13:12:48 GMT -7
I think the 2-10 cab is open back. I could be totally wrong....... The Z 2x10 is an open back cab but a specific design.
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Post by jwr on Nov 23, 2005 14:46:55 GMT -7
Sorry about that. Myles, how does it sound compared to the combo?
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Post by Lefty on Nov 27, 2005 19:07:37 GMT -7
Sorry about that. Myles, how does it sound compared to the combo? I'm not Myles, but I have 2x10 combos and a 2x10 cab. IHMO there really isn't much tonal differences between the two. I think it really comes down to speaker/amp isolation. If hard pressed I would say the 2x10 cab may be a little "darker". I'm sure glad I have both
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Post by jwr on Nov 28, 2005 13:25:17 GMT -7
Lefty, in your opinion is it worth splitting up the chasis and the cab with a MAZ SR?
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Post by Lefty on Feb 13, 2006 12:41:51 GMT -7
A little late but...IMHO, I would go combo if that's what you're asking. There's just something cool about the combos!
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Post by jwr on Feb 14, 2006 8:53:50 GMT -7
Went with heads and cabs. Best decision I ever made. Thanks Myles for the advice and final nudge. You really helped me to pull the trigger.
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