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Post by Seńor Verde on Feb 11, 2007 11:44:25 GMT -7
I have always set my amps up to be clean and used pedals for my overdriven sounds. Lately all the pedals I have tried are too compressed and way too trebly. So, last night for the last set, I cranked the pre and post, readjusted the tone controls and clicked the Hot Plate down a notch and got fantastic medium overdrive sounds. I would like to keep this setup, but here are the problems.
1- When I kick in my boost for a lead, the amp gets more distorted, not really louder.
2- There are times when I need more distortion. Adding a distortion pedal into the already driven amp will result in compressed, trebly, fuzzy sound.
How do you folks that run your Maz amps avoid these issues?
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Post by shugaboy on Feb 13, 2007 11:44:29 GMT -7
I would suggest just using your guitar volume knob to control volume and gain level. Set the amp at its highest gain level that you would like and roll back the volume to get your cleans. No tap dancing on pedals either.
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Post by detuned on Feb 13, 2007 13:21:12 GMT -7
Someone (sorry I'm forgetting who) suggested that placing the boost in the fx loop would accomplish something like what you're describing.
I haven't had a chance to try it yet, myself...
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Post by Curt on Feb 13, 2007 13:32:56 GMT -7
I would suggest just using your guitar volume knob to control volume and gain level. Set the amp at its highest gain level that you would like and roll back the volume to get your cleans. No tap dancing on pedals either. +1, this is where I am finally at, last Sat's gig was zero dirt boxes. Had the Jr NR dialed in and smokin' for Allman/Skynyrd tones yet could roll back and clean up enough for counrty lead tones ;D
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Post by psj1026 (Pete) on Feb 13, 2007 18:22:24 GMT -7
you could use an A/B switch to plug into both inputs. Using the low one for rhythm and high one for lead. It works but I have not used it in a live situation myself. I may try it next gig.
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Post by Seńor Verde on Feb 13, 2007 19:40:43 GMT -7
No offense to any of you guys, but just turning down the guitar volume will not work for me because:
I play rhythm and leads clean. I play heavy distortion rhythms and leads. I play moderate distortions rhythm and lead. We do not have a soundman that can turn the leads up through the PA, I have to accomplish this with a post-OD pedal boost.
Just using my guitar volume control, which I do use anyway from time to time, will not allow the desired clean or distortion levels on each song or passage. Therefore, it would limit my sounds too much. Using any boost would just add more distortion. BTW, my amps do not have effects loops and that would not work because it would only increase the power amp distortion, not boost the signal cleanly.
If I were doing one style of music all night, it would work for me, but we cover enough ground that I want the volumes to be consistent and the distortions to be somewhat song appropriate. If I were doing all hard rock, jazz or blues, it would definitely work.
Interesting idea about the high/low inputs. I may try that, just to see what happens.
Thanks for the replies guys!
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Post by jwr on Feb 13, 2007 20:17:32 GMT -7
Fulltone FDII Mosfet and Fatboost. Lots of tonal options and the Boost in front of that pedal works well. Also the Analogman KOT V4 works really well too, has 2 channels and can be used the same way as the FDII. You may need a 2 amp setup if ya don't want to deal with pedals. If you had a loop an EQ pedal works VERY well to boost for solo's. I use one with my Bogner and my Marshall and works for both clean and distorted solo's.
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Post by biglebowski41 on Feb 18, 2007 10:57:47 GMT -7
Try a Durham Sex Drive!
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Post by JChance on Feb 20, 2007 6:38:45 GMT -7
And ultimately, as deceivingly loud as the 18 watt Jr is, it's still an 18 watt amp. If you are already pushing it, it's going to run out of headroom pretty quickly when you try & boost it for clean lines. You can do a lot with these amps, but if you need all those timbres of clean & dirty, a pedal is probably the only option, with the amp set clean.
Unfortunately, there's only a handful of boosters and dirt boxes available these days...
(*sarcasm*) ;D
J
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Post by 95strat on Feb 20, 2007 12:33:13 GMT -7
LOL! Yeah, only a few. That's the problem...to many to choose from.
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Post by harry on Mar 6, 2007 16:23:43 GMT -7
Like one person stated: Start with a good OD pedal. I also am a Fulltone FD II Mosfet fan! The OCD 3rd generation also cooks. An RC Booster for mild grind also works. I use 2 Fulltone FD II's and the RC Booster to give me the options when needed and run the amp clean. There are other great pedals out there but it is personal preference, guitar, pick ups, who cuts your hair etc. The bottom line is that you get what you pay for, don't cheap out; you didn't on your amp?
Harry
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